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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #810 on: December 09, 2013, 09:42:AM »
Morning Grahame  Julie turn down the offer of a wine bar in the West End NEVER steve is deluding himself if he believes this ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #811 on: December 09, 2013, 09:44:AM »
Grahame campion is so clever too clever for me at times as I don't understand a word he is saying but I know it will be accurate.  He is so funny as well makes me laugh ;D

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« Reply #812 on: December 09, 2013, 09:44:AM »
Mugfords statement says she did not like Brett always being around. At one stage she did not want to meet Jeremy as Brett was there. Jeremy pleaded with Mugford & they met. Mugford did not want to attend the funerals. Again Jeremy pleaded with her to go.

Mugford did say she put a pillow over Jeremys head, then took it off. She also got physical after she heard Jeremy asking another woman out while she was present. Can't say I blame her.

As the relationship deteriated further Mugford threatened to go to the police. Jeremy said they would never believe her & he was 'watertight'.


Mugford was an attractive young woman. She would have got over Jeremy. Approaching the police, lying to them & then lying to the courts to put an innocent man in jail is too extreme a reaction to a relationship breakdown.  Especially as the punishment for perjury is so severe. I do not believe Mugford was strong, vindictive or clever enough to have got through the police interviews & court cross examination without cracking. Unless she was telling the truth.
That "woman" was her best friend. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Certainly a biased witness if ever there was one. Because of her rocky relationship with her ex boyfriend should have made her an unreliable witness and the prosecution should never have put her on the stand. Certainly her testimony should have been thrown out of court. It appears to me that most of the prosecution witnesses had a bone to pick with Jeremy and therefore were biased against him.
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #813 on: December 09, 2013, 09:48:AM »
Ha Ha Adam you are a very bad judge of character if you think that about Julie have you forgot about her criminal activities which were quite conveniently forgotten and the deal for the £25.000 that would have bought you loads of Designer suits ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #814 on: December 09, 2013, 10:00:AM »
Ha Ha Adam you are a very bad judge of character if you think that about Julie have you forgot about her criminal activities which were quite conveniently forgotten and the deal for the £25.000 that would have bought you loads of Designer suits ;D ;D ;D
He is obviously blinded by a woman's charm. He believes her to be a sweet innocent little girl who has no common sense of her own and so was carried away blindly by Jeremy's charms.

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« Reply #815 on: December 09, 2013, 10:05:AM »
Grahame Adam thinks nothing of the sort he just wants to blacken Jeremy in anyway he can and instead of facing upto what Julie is he posts up rubbish about her he does not believe that at all.

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« Reply #816 on: December 09, 2013, 05:07:PM »
Mugford went to the police. The first thing she confessed to was the caravan burglary.

I appreciate supporters have to believe Mugford is lying. Otherwise Jeremy is automatically guilty. I just find it hard to believe she would do all this due to apparently being jilted.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #817 on: December 09, 2013, 05:13:PM »
Adam you do not know the female species very well as a woman scorned is dangerous have you not read cases where a wife has poured all her husbands wines down the drain another cut up his designer suits (what a shame she may have given you one) what about the recent case of the MP and the points his wife took for him for a driving offence until she became a woman scorned and look where that ended up.

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« Reply #818 on: December 09, 2013, 05:15:PM »
Ha Ha Adam you are a very bad judge of character if you think that about Julie have you forgot about her criminal activities which were quite conveniently forgotten and the deal for the £25.000 that would have bought you loads of Designer suits ;D ;D ;D

The NOTW would have approched her. She had to speak to the press as it was a high profile case. They would never have left her alone. If they want to pay her, why not take the money offer ?
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« Reply #819 on: December 09, 2013, 05:19:PM »
Adam you do not know the female species very well as a woman scorned is dangerous have you not read cases where a wife has poured all her husbands wines down the drain another cut up his designer suits (what a shame she may have given you one) what about the recent case of the MP and the points his wife took for him for a driving offence until she became a woman scorned and look where that ended up.

Good point. Yes it does happen or rare occasions. It was proved the MP's wife was telling the truth. Although she did so after the crime. Similar to Mugford ?
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« Reply #820 on: December 09, 2013, 05:23:PM »
Ha but Adam was the deal with NOTW done before or after the Trial I suspect before and were the Jury aware of this deal and you do realise she would not have got one penny had Jeremy walked free and lets face it one more vote of not guilty and he would have done. Also all criminal charges against her were to be dropped in return for her to testify she had been quite a naughty little girl in her own right ;

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« Reply #821 on: December 09, 2013, 05:25:PM »
Grahame Adam thinks nothing of the sort he just wants to blacken Jeremy in anyway he can and instead of facing upto what Julie is he posts up rubbish about her he does not believe that at all.

My post about Julie is based on her WS. Jeremys interview transcripts do not refute what she said. How can they when there are over 30 'no comments' & 'don't knows'.
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« Reply #822 on: December 09, 2013, 05:27:PM »
Ha but Adam was the deal with NOTW done before or after the Trial I suspect before and were the Jury aware of this deal and you do realise she would not have got one penny had Jeremy walked free and lets face it one more vote of not guilty and he would have done. Also all criminal charges against her were to be dropped in return for her to testify she had been quite a naughty little girl in her own right ;

The NOTW would be experienced in knowing when she should sign.

Verbally, before conviction. Signing, after conviction.
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #823 on: December 09, 2013, 05:28:PM »
My post about Julie is based on her WS. Jeremys interview transcripts do not refute what she said. How can they when there are over 30 'no comments' & 'don't knows'.
Perhaps he was in competition with Julie and wanted to match her over 30 'pratice witness statements'?  ;)

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« Reply #824 on: December 09, 2013, 05:30:PM »
Adam £25,000 a great incentive for testifying against the love of your life oh and I almost forgot getting criminal charges against you dropped thus enabling you to carry on and become a teacher.