The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Adam]

Mugford is a witness. There were other witnesses as well. Including Jeremy who was unconvincing.

The mountain of 'circimstantial evidence is that Jeremy phoned the police. If Neville had not phoned Jeremy, Jeremy is guilty as 'Sheila' had gone crazy. It was him or Sheila. There is no evidence Neville phoned Jeremy.

He had a bike at home, knew the routes & had loaded a gun that evening. He phoned Mugford & knew how to get in WHF through windows. He knew how to exit & lock from outside.

[nugnug]

Mugford is a witness. There were other witnesses as well. Including Jeremy who was unconvincing.

The mountain of 'circimstantial evidence is that Jeremy phoned the police. If Neville had not phoned Jeremy, Jeremy is guilty as 'Sheila' had gone crazy. It was him or Sheila. There is no evidence Neville phoned Jeremy.

He had a bike at home, knew the routes & had loaded a gun that evening. He phoned Mugford & knew how to get in WHF through windows. He knew how to exit & lock from outside.

if nevile hadent phoned him.

if does not constitute evidence.

[Adam]

If Neville had not phoned him, how would he know ?

[lookout]

Mugford is a witness. There were other witnesses as well. Including Jeremy who was unconvincing.

The mountain of 'circimstantial evidence is that Jeremy phoned the police. If Neville had not phoned Jeremy, Jeremy is guilty as 'Sheila' had gone crazy. It was him or Sheila. There is no evidence Neville phoned Jeremy.

He had a bike at home, knew the routes & had loaded a gun that evening. He phoned Mugford & knew how to get in WHF through windows. He knew how to exit & lock from outside.

Unconvincing because he had nothing to tell. How on earth can anyone,whose faced with a barage of questions,be expected to answer,when they know nothing of what happened that night ?
The bike stayed put,,and for all we know,Neville may have been in the process of securing the rifle knowing that the twins were staying there.
He phoned JM because she was his only contact,as after all,,his relatives weren't exactly supportive at any time,even before the tragedy,they hated him like poison.
If Jeremy had committed the murders,,why did he bother ringing the police anyway ? Why not just turn over and forget about it ? A psychopath would have done,,and it's been well established that Jeremy isn't sick in the head/mind.He hasn't even shown signs of violence in prison.   

[Adam]

Unconvincing because he had nothing to tell. How on earth can anyone,whose faced with a barage of questions,be expected to answer,when they know nothing of what happened that night ?
The bike stayed put,,and for all we know,Neville may have been in the process of securing the rifle knowing that the twins were staying there.
He phoned JM because she was his only contact,as after all,,his relatives weren't exactly supportive at any time,even before the tragedy,they hated him like poison.
If Jeremy had committed the murders,,why did he bother ringing the police anyway ? Why not just turn over and forget about it ? A psychopath would have done,,and it's been well established that Jeremy isn't sick in the head/mind.He hasn't even shown signs of violence in prison.

Perhaps Jeremy did plan to go back to bed after the murders. Then look surprised when told the news.  However Neville had been found in the kitchen brutally beaten by the phone. He had to explain this. Telling the police he had received a phone call explains this.

Jeremy worked on the farm so was maybe due to be at the house first thing in the morning. So would have been first on the scene anyway.

Ringing the police & acting concerned puts him in the driving seat straight away.

[Adam]

The judge at trial could not believe Jeremy phoned Mugford at 3am.

Witness testimony says the phone call was before the police phone call.

[lookout]

Perhaps Jeremy did plan to go back to bed after the murders. Then look surprised when told the news.  However Neville had been found in the kitchen brutally beaten by the phone. He had to explain this. Telling the police he had received a phone call explains this.

Jeremy worked on the farm so was maybe due to be at the house first thing in the morning. So would have been first on the scene anyway.

Ringing the police & acting concerned puts him in the driving seat straight away.

No,he wouldn't have been the first at the farm.Another farm-worker who used to be there early would have found them all. I must say that if Jeremy had slaughtered them all,he was cutting it fine before that farmhand ( now deceased ) arrived there,because he'd have found Sheila still alive at 4am/4.30. Not forgetting that Sheila herself didn't die much before 7.45 am while Jeremy was outside with the police.
Jeremy didn't act concerned.He didn't know the extent of the tragedy,did he ?

[Adam]

No,he wouldn't have been the first at the farm.Another farm-worker who used to be there early would have found them all. I must say that if Jeremy had slaughtered them all,he was cutting it fine before that farmhand ( now deceased ) arrived there,because he'd have found Sheila still alive at 4am/4.30. Not forgetting that Sheila herself didn't die much before 7.45 am while Jeremy was outside with the police.
Jeremy didn't act concerned.He didn't know the extent of the tragedy,did he ?

If Jeremy had not made the call & someone else found the bodies, Jeremy would have still been a suspect. Lots of people did not believe Sheila was capable of the murders & Jeremy stood to inherit a fortune.

He made the decision to phone the police & convince them from the start. That backed him into a corner if the police suspected him in future - it was him or Sheila. However he felt confident, telling Mugford it was an 'open & shut case' & he was 'watertight'.

[Adam]

Perhaps Jeremy realised he had to make the call after phoning Mugford at 3am.

If he was ever a suspect, Mugford or her flatmates could mention the 3am call. Phoning Mugford was a mistake, but he could rectify this by phoning the police.

[grahameb]

Mugford is a witness. There were other witnesses as well. Including Jeremy who was unconvincing.

The mountain of 'circimstantial evidence is that Jeremy phoned the police. If Neville had not phoned Jeremy, Jeremy is guilty as 'Sheila' had gone crazy. It was him or Sheila. There is no evidence Neville phoned Jeremy.

He had a bike at home, knew the routes & had loaded a gun that evening. He phoned Mugford & knew how to get in WHF through windows. He knew how to exit & lock from outside.

And where did all that information come from? Jeremy himself. What a twit if he was guilty. By the way Jeremy DID  phone the police. That is not circumstantial evidence.

[Alias]

Mugford is a witness. There were other witnesses as well. Including Jeremy who was unconvincing.

The mountain of 'circimstantial evidence is that Jeremy phoned the police. If Neville had not phoned Jeremy, Jeremy is guilty as 'Sheila' had gone crazy. It was him or Sheila. There is no evidence Neville phoned Jeremy.

He had a bike at home, knew the routes & had loaded a gun that evening. He phoned Mugford & knew how to get in WHF through windows. He knew how to exit & lock from outside.

To what exactly? I´ll go along and pretend I believe her. She said that Jeremy had been planning those murders for close to a year. She knew all about it, she even provided sleeping pills for him to sedate his family, then burn the house down.
Why didn´t she warn the family if she knew? Why wasn´t she prosecuted for this (or for any of her other crimes for that matter). Why weren´t the relatives demanding that Mugford be prosecuted for NOT warning the family of imminent danger? Wouldn´t you have?

[grahameb]

Perhaps Jeremy did plan to go back to bed after the murders. Then look surprised when told the news.  However Neville had been found in the kitchen brutally beaten by the phone. He had to explain this. Telling the police he had received a phone call explains this.

Jeremy worked on the farm so was maybe due to be at the house first thing in the morning. So would have been first on the scene anyway.

Ringing the police & acting concerned puts him in the driving seat straight away.

I'm afraid all that sounds very unconvincing to me. Ralph was not found by the phone. If he was found by the phone Jeremy would have rectified it. Why did he have to explain anything? He could have just pleaded ignorance. Also if he did it he would have made sure he was not the first at the farm in the morning.

[grahameb]

The judge at trial could not believe Jeremy phoned Mugford at 3am.

Witness testimony says the phone call was before the police phone call.

Oh! you mean Ducky Drake of Miss whiplash fame? A very stable kind of man indeed.

[grahameb]

If Jeremy had not made the call & someone else found the bodies, Jeremy would have still been a suspect. Lots of people did not believe Sheila was capable of the murders & Jeremy stood to inherit a fortune.

He made the decision to phone the police & convince them from the start. That backed him into a corner if the police suspected him in future - it was him or Sheila. However he felt confident, telling Mugford it was an 'open & shut case' & he was 'watertight'.

No he wouldn't have.

[grahameb]

Perhaps Jeremy realised he had to make the call after phoning Mugford at 3am.

If he was ever a suspect, Mugford or her flatmates could mention the 3am call. Phoning Mugford was a mistake, but he could rectify this by phoning the police.

If he had done the crime why would he then phone Muggy? It doesn't make sense. Any of it doesn't make sense. If he was planning to do the perfect murder as is suggested then rule number one is told tell anybody. The actions of a clever man? Or a foolish man? A guilty man? Or an innocent man?