Hi Adam 
Morning Susan/all
It does not matter that she said that and he said the other. What we/you have to establish is what forensic science has to offer.
1, There are no witnesses
2, There are no fibers or fingerprints that belong to Jeremy in any of the bedrooms.
3, The rifle was not wiped clean
4, There were no fingerprints belonging to Jeremy on the windows
5, The SOCO's did 3 extensive examinations of the downstairs windows and it was third examination that they noticed a catch had marks on it. On the 28th of October RWC took the catch from the window. On the 31st Of October Elliot and his team told the COA that he took the same catch. RWC/8 How is that possible?
6, The pushbike was examined and no evidence was recovered from it.
7, Wetsuits were examined and no forensic evidence was recovered.
8, Jeremy was convicted because the judge at trial told the jury that the blood in the silencer belonged to Sheila. New forensic science says there is not a match to Sheila inside the silencer and the COA excepted this.
9, The only evidence portrayed by those that think he is guilty is based on what it written in books, newspapers and other forms of media related news.
10, It does not matter that Jeremy was arrogant, selfish or disliked his family. One needs to place him at a crime scene.
11, The facts are that when someone takes their own life with a gun/rifle the shots are mainly under the chin....any pathologist would agree that this would be more likely.
12, I don't believe that everyone lied in order to convict Jeremy, discrepancies yes. However I am suspicious of one officer and one witness.
13, I find it incredible that two officers took paint samples from underneath the AGA placed a yellow sticker on it and did not notice the scratch marks at the side of the sticker.
14, I also find it dishonest to alter to statements to the point where an officer tells the witness not to mention it in court or it will cause problems.
15, I find inconceivable that one officer took a pair of black canvas shoes from a crime scene and told a witness not to say anything.
16, The hand swabs were rejected by the lab because they arrived with guns. The swabs were resubmitted, but there is no evidence to support the fact that new swabs had been taken, so this evidence alone is unsafe because of cross contamination.
17, I get a little grumpy when people say that the police were treating it as a murder/suicide because this is their excuse for not following procedures at crime scene correctly.
18, No matter how you look at it, Julie only came forward when her relationship with Bamber was over.
19, One officer attended the bank with two girls when he was off duty. Gross misconduct.
20, These are just a few facts....So is there any concrete evidence based on forensic science that placed Jeremy at the crime scene?
1: Correct. The perfect murder.
2: Why should there be ? He walked into the bedrooms, fired the rifle & walked out again.
3: Jeremys interview transcripts say it was wiped clean but they found two fingerprints. One of Jeremys, one of Sheilas.
4: Gloves. Could easily be disposed of. Or the window wiped clean
5: Jeremys interview transcripts said he can enter WHF via windows. There is no reason for anyone to lie.
6: He washed at WHF. Was Jeremy pouring with blood ? He had no injuries the following day.
7: He did not wear one. Wasn't only half a wet suit found ?
8: The tests at the time showed it matched Sheila's blood group. As well as other family members. Wasn't there two cartridges next to Sheila ? How did she return the silencer ?
9: Of course. How else do I get information. Interview Jeremy ? Some information supports Jeremy.
10: The perfect murder. The judge said there was a mountain of circumstantial evidence. It was either Jeremy or Sheila. Together with Mugfords statement & other people who testified that Jeremy literally hated his family.
11: Perfect murder ? Maybe Jeremy knew this. Mugford did say Jeremy had been planning the murder.
12: No. Everyone lied ! Both in and out of court.
13: Do not know anything about this. Is Jeremy saying this ?
14: Do not know anything about this. Is Jeremy saying this ?
15: Have not read this before. Is Jeremy saying this.
16: What hand swabs ?
17: That is an excuse. It is also true. The police agreed they made mistakes early on.
18: Correct. She says that herself. Both in & out of court. From her WS it seems she was not jilted. It was a general decline in the relationship. Especially after the murders. At no time was Mugford pleading with Jeremy to stay with her.
19: I do not understand.
20: People do not usually carry out murders in front of witnesses. Jeremy walked around WHF with a gun. What forensics ?
