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« Reply #330 on: December 05, 2013, 06:23:PM »
Not if you've got one of those new Indian electric cars. He could have painted it black and tied pairs of slippers around the tyres.
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« Reply #331 on: December 05, 2013, 06:24:PM »
well if he was on a bike and wearing a wetsuit they would certanly wonder where he was going.



Absolutely,nugs,,but they'd have definitely heard/seen a vehicle leaving his house.

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #332 on: December 05, 2013, 06:24:PM »
You know why. Cars are more likely to be seen & are noisey. There may have been CCTV, speed cameras etc.

they dident have cctv back then not in the countryside anyway.

and a cctv camra would of spotted him if he was cycling just the same as driving.
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« Reply #333 on: December 05, 2013, 08:33:PM »
they dident have cctv back then not in the countryside anyway.

and a cctv camra would of spotted if he was cycling just the same as driveing.
Back then only the rich and gangsters had cctv. ;D

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« Reply #334 on: December 06, 2013, 01:50:PM »
I am sorry but I have been unable to create a Sheila scenario which matched the crime scene & bullet allocation. Is anyone able to do this ? We can then discuss it.

Page 20 has my Jeremy scenario together with matching bullet allocation, which as now been discussed.
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« Reply #335 on: December 06, 2013, 01:55:PM »
Adam I am getting the feeling you are leaning towards Jeremy innocent. Am I right.

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« Reply #336 on: December 06, 2013, 02:00:PM »
Adam I am getting the feeling you are leaning towards Jeremy innocent. Am I right.

An open mind Susan.
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« Reply #337 on: December 06, 2013, 02:01:PM »
Adam that is the best approach to anything keep an open mind you will achieve the correct answer in the end.

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« Reply #338 on: December 06, 2013, 02:06:PM »
Agree.

Do you have a Sheila scenario ? Perhaps make me look at things differently.
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« Reply #339 on: December 06, 2013, 02:20:PM »
An open mind Susan.




Open mind,,,,,my eye. You're another one that would have had him hung,drawn and quartered.

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« Reply #340 on: December 06, 2013, 02:27:PM »
lookout  I am so disappointed I was getting vibes from Adam that he was now thinking Jeremy innocent. Back to the drawing board or tea leaves. ;D

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« Reply #341 on: December 06, 2013, 02:27:PM »
Give me a Sheila scenario to make me think.

The whole process probably only lasted a few minutes. Either Jeremy killing as described on page 20. Or Sheila in a rage killing everyone & then herself.
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« Reply #342 on: December 06, 2013, 02:35:PM »
Give me a Sheila scenario to make me think.

The whole process probably only lasted a few minutes. Either Jeremy killing as described on page 20. Or Sheila in a rage killing everyone & then herself.

I believe it took more than a few minutes. The fight with Neville would have taken some time.

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« Reply #343 on: December 06, 2013, 02:39:PM »
I cant give you the scenario because the final position of the bodies was not clear , plus in the police exercise the bodies were moved as was the gun and its not clear about when or who took the photos or when. plus the carpets etc that might have shown patterns of blood belonging to the victims to prove any movements about the house were destroyed on orders of the police. Plus the ballistic evidence produced in court appears to be incorrect. So If someone produces a scenario what do you base it on?

But I have one question to ask you - if you believe JB did it when the police arrived that house would have been completely silent and no signs of movement at all . And taking into account this was before all todays H&S assesments etc, and the fact that they knew there were two young children possibly bleeding to death , why did they wait outside ( with JB with them ) for HOURS before going into the house? They would have heard nothing ( because all would have been dead) they would have seen nothing  so WHY wait so long even when the armed police arrived. This is the bit that to me does not add up. But if you see the entries in the police logs it makes perfect sense.

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« Reply #344 on: December 06, 2013, 02:42:PM »
I cant give you the scenario because the final position of the bodies was not clear , plus in the police exercise the bodies were moved as was the gun and its not clear about when or who took the photos or when. plus the carpets etc that might have shown patterns of blood belonging to the victims to prove any movements about the house were destroyed on orders of the police. Plus the ballistic evidence produced in court appears to be incorrect. So If someone produces a scenario what do you base it on?

But I have one question to ask you - if you believe JB did it when the police arrived that house would have been completely silent and no signs of movement at all . And taking into account this was before all todays H&S assesments etc, and the fact that they knew there were two young children possibly bleeding to death , why did they wait outside ( with JB with them ) for HOURS before going into the house? They would have heard nothing ( because all would have been dead) they would have seen nothing  so WHY wait so long even when the armed police arrived. This is the bit that to me does not add up. But if you see the entries in the police logs it makes perfect sense.

I have always found this highly odd! Knowing there were little children possibly held hostage, why didn“t they act sooner???