The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[lookout]

That was a surprise in the recent documentary. Jeremy bounding down the stairs in a Hugo Boss suit, pointing at himself/ his suit saying 'me boss'. In front of lots of witnesses as well.

Goodness me,he was just a big kid,,who probably knew he'd annoy everyone. I wish I'd seen their contorted faces when he said that !

[grahameb]

Someone close to the case said it on national TV.

Don't say it's another untruth. Jeremy must be fed up with Essex Police, Mugord, Battersby, the Boutflours, Ann Eaton,  Wilson, Rimmington & Wilkes telling lies.

If he isn't, I certainly am. Who is there to contradict Miller? They probably all think like you do. That if he said it on national tv then it must be true. Even if it were true what does it prove? Just a bit of foolish bravado in order to give the impression that he has himself under control. Of course we cannot expect a thick idiot like Miller to appreciate things like that.

[maggie]

If he isn't, I certainly am. Who is there to contradict Miller? They probably all think like you do. That if he said it on national tv then it must be true. Even if it were true what does it prove? Just a bit of foolish bravado in order to give the impression that he has himself under control. Of course we cannot expect a thick idiot like Miller to appreciate things like that.

Well said Grahame.

[lookout]

If he isn't, I certainly am. Who is there to contradict Miller? They probably all think like you do. That if he said it on national tv then it must be true. Even if it were true what does it prove? Just a bit of foolish bravado in order to give the impression that he has himself under control. Of course we cannot expect a thick idiot like Miller to appreciate things like that.

Thick is right,Grahame. Unbelievably so !

[Adam]

Perfectly beleivable scenario for me -

Jeremy rides to WHF - He had a bike & knew the routes.

He gets through the bathroom window without making a noise  - He is used to getting in. Found hacksaw used  earlier to ensure a quiet entry.

The phones are disabled & gun picked up.

He starts shooting a sleeping June - Blood on the pillow (5)

Neville wakes & gets up & is shot - Torso shots (4)

Neville heads to the kitchen - Back shot (1)

He is caught up and beaten - Gun is now empty. Nevilles black eyes, damaged jaw.

Gun re loaded and Neville shot again - Head shots (3)

June has staggered out of bed. She is shot again (2)

Sheila is woken & told she needs to go into the main bedroom. She is immediatly pulled to the floor, held down &  shot. Still alive she is shot again - Two bullet wounds (2)

The twins are shot while sleeping - Found in bed (eight).

Silencer taken off - Not found on gun.

A gun & bible is put on & by Sheila - Both found on/by her.

Bedroom phone brought downstairs & plugged in - No blood on phone.

Kitchen phone hidden - Found under newpapers. In working order.

Silencer put in box in gun cupboard - Found in a box in the gun cupboard.

Exit out of the kitchen window - Lockable from outside.

Back home, wash & get ready to make phone calls.

[Jane]

I can't think that there would have been any need to have Sheila in the master bedroom. She would never have committed suicide in the same room as her mother. It would have made much more sense to havew placed her in the boys room to where she would have naturally gravitated.

[lookout]

Cobblers.

[Adam]

I can't think that there would have been any need to have Sheila in the master bedroom. She would never have committed suicide in the same room as her mother. It would have made much more sense to havew placed her in the boys room to where she would have naturally gravitated.

So if Sheila had committed suicide she would be found in the bedroom with her children ?

Are you saying she did not commit suicide ?

[grahameb]

Perfectly beleivable scenario for me -

Jeremy rides to WHF in a wet suit - He had a wet suit, bike & knew the routes.

He gets through the bathroom window without making a noise or leaving evidence - He is used to getting in & wore gloves.

The phones are disabled & gun picked up.

He starts shooting a sleeping June - Blood on the pillow.

Neville wakes & gets up & is shot - Torso shots.

Neville heads to the kitchen - Back shot.

He is caught up and beaten - Gun is now empty. Nevilles black eyes, damaged jaw.

Gun re loaded and Neville shot again - Head shots.

Sheila is woken & told she needs to go into the main bedroom. She is immediatly pulled to the floor, held down &  shot. Still alive she is shot again - Two bullet wounds.

The twins are shot while sleeping - Found in bed.

A gun & bible is put on & by Sheila - Both found on/by her.

Bedroom phone brought downstairs & plugged in - No blood on phone.

Kitchen phone hidden - Found under newpapers. In working order.

Exit out of the kitchen window - Lockable from outside.

Back home, wash & get ready to make phone calls.

If that is believable to you. Then all I can say is that you will believe anything.

[Adam]

I have just amended the scenario to include the silencer. An important item.

[nugnug]

Perfectly beleivable scenario for me -

Jeremy rides to WHF in a wet suit - He had a wet suit, bike & knew the routes.

He gets through the bathroom window without making a noise or leaving evidence - He is used to getting in & wore gloves.

The phones are disabled & gun picked up.

He starts shooting a sleeping June - Blood on the pillow.

Neville wakes & gets up & is shot - Torso shots.

Neville heads to the kitchen - Back shot.

He is caught up and beaten - Gun is now empty. Nevilles black eyes, damaged jaw.

Gun re loaded and Neville shot again - Head shots.

Sheila is woken & told she needs to go into the main bedroom. She is immediatly pulled to the floor, held down &  shot. Still alive she is shot again - Two bullet wounds.

The twins are shot while sleeping - Found in bed.

Silencer taken off - Not found on gun.

A gun & bible is put on & by Sheila - Both found on/by her.

Bedroom phone brought downstairs & plugged in - No blood on phone.

Kitchen phone hidden - Found under newpapers. In working order.

Silencer put in box in gun cupboard.

Exit out of the kitchen window - Lockable from outside.

Back home, wash & get ready to make phone calls.

you are bob wolfingdon and i cliam the 5 pound reward.

[lookout]

Whoever it is had got wind of the forthcoming CCRC presentation of new evidence. This sort of thing always happens. You've only to see how hot on the heels that last video came from the one before about the relatives. It's becoming a tit-for-tat scenario.

[Jan]

I have just amended the scenario to include the silencer. An important item.

you missed a few bits-
he faked the electrical storm that put the phones out .Carefully put the silencer with the blood on in a place where the police would find it .When he got home washed the wet suit and gloves and destroyed them. cleaned the bike. faked the police log. Put a false person in the house that the police saw and communicated with. Put on an excellent act on the night. But then let that act slip ( careless!) Told his girlfriend everything so she could blackmail him in the future . Stuck to his story totally ( except for one timing when under pressure ) whilst all around him constantly changed theirs . Oh and forgot - made sure that the bodies were verified as time of death as 8 oclock ( which in fact on its own should have cleared him. IMO!  

[grahameb]

you missed a few bits-
he faked the electrical storm that put the phones out .Carefully put the silencer with the blood on in a place where the police would find it .When he got home washed the wet suit and gloves and destroyed them. cleaned the bike. faked the police log. Put a false person in the house that the police saw and communicated with. Put on an excellent act on the night. But then let that act slip ( careless!) Told his girlfriend everything so she could blackmail him in the future . Stuck to his story totally ( except for one timing when under pressure ) whilst all around him constantly changed theirs . Oh and forgot - made sure that the bodies were verified as time of death as 8 oclock ( which in fact on its own should have cleared him. IMO!

Don't forget that he had to go to France in order to wash the wetsuit. The who purpose of wearing a wetsuit is that they are absorbent. The idea is that it gets wet and the water keeps the body from chilling.

[Adam]

I have just amened my scenario post. In brackets I have put bullet shots, total is 25 which hit the target.

Feel free to correct me.