"Which adopted child shot farmhouse family"?

[grahameb]

No she was a Yuppie who beat them all at their own game,and good luck to her now because she made her own luck..

I wonder what she saw in Jeremy?

[Jane]

There was no microwave oven in my grotty accommodation and I certainly wasn't paying for one myself for three others to use. All I saw was growing pressure on working people and a steep rise in unemployment where people could have made a contribution. Jeremy realized the expense of furnishing a house and with the loan repayable for his New Zealand trip(I must check what Chris Nevill had to say again but it wasn't complimentary)and replacement car the resentment in Jeremy only fomented until he finally snapped.

Steve, your experience can have done no other than colour your view of life in different hues to my own. That doesn't mean that either of us is right/wrong. You see Jeremy's view of "having" to furnish a cottage through your own experience. I see it through my own. I doubt that I had jeremy's income but the excitement of furnishing my own home outweighed my penury. I really don't believe that the outstanding New Zealand loan was weighing too heavily on Jeremy's shoulders, neither would he have worried unduly about the cost of a replacement car. My own insurance company paid me within £5 of what I'd paid for a car which was written of and it took about a week for the cheque to come through.

[Jane]

No she was a Yuppie who beat them all at their own game,and good luck to her now because she made her own luck..

So Thatcher's Yuppies are unacceptable but Mugford Yuppism is OK?

[susan]

steve not luck that Julie got but opportunity.

[lookout]

steve not luck that Julie got but opportunity.

And a helping of bluff I would have said too.

[grahameb]

Steve, that was an answer to a question I never asked.

But it does reveal that she was not a person to be ignorantly lead as we have been lead to believe. She knew her own mind and was prepared to do anything to get her own way. That is how she comes across to me anyway. Just look at the her NOTW pictures as an example of what I say.

[Steve_uk]

If he was like that he certainly would not be living in a small cottage in Goldhanger. But rather in a spacious flat in London with all the other yuppies.

But Grahame that's just what he aspired to and look where he ended up as a result of the five deaths..http://www.morsheadmansions.com/

[Jane]

But it does reveal that she was not a person to be ignorantly lead as we have been lead to believe. She knew her own mind and was prepared to do anything to get her own way. That is how she comes across to me anyway. Just look at the her NOTW pictures as an example of what I say.

Grahame, your observation fits perfectly with Steve's description of Julie as "a Yuppie who beat them all at their own game...........because she made her own luck" DIDN'T SHE JUST!!!!!

[Steve_uk]

So Thatcher's Yuppies are unacceptable but Mugford Yuppism is OK?

I have nothing against people wanting to develop their own talents to the best of their own abilities:just I would tax them a bit more once they are earning the kind of salary Julie is now,but that has nothing to do with the Jeremy Bamber case. All I might add is that there is nothing worse than pushy parents with children of mediocre abilities planning their lives out for them which only adds pressure and in this sense this does bring me back to Jeremy Bamber.

[lookout]

I agree with you there,Steve,,about pushy parents ( very damaging to the child ) and also another thing that gets up my nose are child prodigies,,but that's the opposite to what the conversation's about.

I don't think the Bamber parents had set their sights too high with either Sheila or Jeremy. They were the type of parents who would let both find their own ways in life. Like the time when Jeremy was doing his travelling,,the easiest option would have been to let him live out his dream of travelling,which is what happened. He was a youn