The two telephone calls (3:26am and 3;36am):-

[grahameb]

I couldn't help but notice written on the picture of the farmhouse "JEREMY'S ESCAPE ROUTE". See what I mean about theories accepted as established fact? It has NEVER been proved that JB used this way of escape. They may be and I suggest they are all fairy tales and figments of imagination?

[No-Bits]

I couldn't help but notice written on the picture of the farmhouse "JEREMY'S ESCAPE ROUTE". See what I mean about theories accepted as established fact? It has NEVER been proved that JB used this way of escape. They may be and I suggest they are all fairy tales and figments of imagination?

I guess you missed the question mark too?

See, how senstive you are Grahame. 

[grahameb]

No doubt you can explain how JB could exit WHF through the window which is indicated?

When the initial reconnoitring of the house was made by Bews, Myall and JB, Myall was emphatic that the window to the left of the 'Yard Door' was not curtained and no light was visible.
However he (Myall) was adamant that the window to the right of the door showed the Main Kitchen light was on, but couldn't be seen into. We established that this was because a Roller Blind was in its lowered mode.

That being the case, how can JB have used this means of egress when not only has he to negotiate the work surface, but to also lower the blind, which was shown to have been operated by cords seen to be at the left of the window, and finally on exit, to secure the opened window light.

Houdini would indeed be proud of this escaping exercise!

Remember it was also entered into an official statement that ALL WINDOWS WERE SECURE.

[grahameb]

I guess you missed the question mark too?

See, how senstive you are Grahame. 

No, I didn't scroll the the picture far enough along. I stand corrected. But at the same time this suggestion was accepted in court.

[maggie]

I couldn't help but notice written on the picture of the farmhouse "JEREMY'S ESCAPE ROUTE". See what I mean about theories accepted as established fact? It has NEVER been proved that JB used this way of escape. They may be and I suggest they are all fairy tales and figments of imagination?

True Grahame, it is another assumption. Unfortunately the judge ruled it didn't matter if he did use the window or not, just that he could have. Did the judge try to climb through the window? How did they establish it as a possibility? ?.?

[No-Bits]

No, I didn't scroll the the picture far enough along. I stand corrected. But at the same time this suggestion was accepted in court.

I think that is where many people are mistaken.

[grahameb]

True Grahame, it is another assumption. Unfortunately the judge ruled it didn't matter if he did use the window or not, just that he could have. Did the judge try to climb through the window? How did they establish it as a possibility? ?.?

Well Maggie by saying that he automatically focussed the jury's mind on the matter so that it appeard that it didn't matter, because Jeremy could still have done the murder. Because the question arose yet ignored as to how he entered and exited the building. It still leaves the question, how did he enter and exit the building without leaving any clues at all that he was there? Or indeed how anybody else was there? There quite simply are no clues that any other persons were there aqt all.

[grahameb]

I think that is where many people are mistaken.

But it is still used by many today to describe how JB did the murders and is accepted as fact today by almost all those who believe him to be guilty.

[No-Bits]

But it is still used by many today to describe how JB did the murders and is accepted as fact today by almost all those who believe him to be guilty.

That may be your perception of things, and I can't speak for others, but in my case that is certainly untrue.

I very much understand that the ability to enter and exit simply allowed the police to increase their suspect list to those who were not found murdered in an apparently secured from the inside house.

How access and egress actually occurred, is unknown, however the possibility remained and was confirmed by Jeremy himself.

[grahameb]

That may be your perception of things, and I can't speak for others, but in my case that is certainly untrue.

I very much understand that the ability to enter and exit simply allowed the police to increase their suspect list to those who were not found murdered in an apparently secured from the inside house.

How access and egress actually occurred, is unknown, however the possibility remained and was confirmed by Jeremy himself.

That is true. He if not the murderer was still a very foolish boy.

[No-Bits]

That is true. He if not the murderer was still a very foolish boy.

Yes, there is a risk of being caught if you commit a crime.

Our overflowing prisons are testament to that.

[mike tesko]

It now remains highly probable, that both calls mentioned in the two phone logs (3.26am and 3.36am) overlapped one another for a period of 5 to 6 minutes, between 3.36am and 3.42am, and that reference to this was / is recorded on the reverse of the original page 1 of Bonnets 3.26am phone log...

The all important information concerns the GPO calling the farmhouse at 3.42am and establishing that the phone had been left off the hook, whilst Jeremy was still speaking to the police, on the other line...

[mike tesko]

It now remains highly probable, that both calls mentioned in the two phone logs (3.26am and 3.36am) overlapped one another for a period of 5 to 6 minutes, between 3.36am and 3.42am, and that reference to this was / is recorded on the reverse of the original page 1 of Bonnets 3.26am phone log...

The all important information concerns the GPO calling the farmhouse at 3.42am and establishing that the phone had been left off the hook, whilst Jeremy was still speaking to the police, on the other line...

What now needs to be done, is to identify the person (GPO) who checked the line at the farmhouse at 3.42am, and obtain that persons witness statement covering this action...

[grahameb]

True Grahame, it is another assumption. Unfortunately the judge ruled it didn't matter if he did use the window or not, just that he could have. Did the judge try to climb through the window? How did they establish it as a possibility? ?.?

"Erm....would counsel help me on this one please? My leg appears to be stuck..under my chin".

[susan]

Grahame you need a push and a shove happy to oblige if not me No Bits