The two telephone calls (3:26am and 3;36am):-

[mike tesko]

Nothing could be clearer, the phone at whf called the GPO - it was the attack alarm, activated by someone still alive inside the farmhouse...

Activated prior to 3:42am...

[mike tesko]

The attack alarm was activated inside whf, whilst Jeremy was at his cottage miles away...

[Reader]

I think you are misreading Pc West's handwriting. In his log, he wrote "checked by GPO", not "called by GPO", and so the word "by" isn't a later insertion.

However, the line "0413 informant @ scene." does look as though it were added later, as it is unnaturally close to the lines before and after it.

Jeremy wasn't at all sure how long his call lasted, but guessed its duration was about five minutes. There is nothing in the logs to suggest it took 10 or 11 minutes.

[Caroline R]

The attack alarm was activated inside whf, whilst Jeremy was at his cottage miles away...

Hi Mike, I thought we had pretty much put the panic alarm theory to bed? Jeremy said it was installed after and Vic confirmed that it was installed post murders.

[mike tesko]

Hi Mike, I thought we had pretty much put the panic alarm theory to bed? Jeremy said it was installed after and Vic confirmed that it was installed post murders.

Hi Caroline,

burglar alarm was fitted after, panic alarm was fitted before due to threats made to kill Ralph Bamber and his family...

[mike tesko]

I think you are misreading Pc West's handwriting. In his log, he wrote "checked by GPO", not "called by GPO", and so the word "by" isn't a later insertion.

However, the line "0413 informant @ scene." does look as though it were added later, as it is unnaturally close to the lines before and after it.

Jeremy wasn't at all sure how long his call lasted, but guessed its duration was about five minutes. There is nothing in the logs to suggest it took 10 or 11 minutes.

Hi Reader,

According to other sources, police checked telephone line at whf after Jeremy called them (3.38am), and police found it to be engaged, not the operator (3.42am). Sequence of events, is out of synchronization, I did not think the operator established phone was off the hook until much later on...

Ann Eaton mentions that Jeremy told her his call lasted about 11 minutes, or so...

Mike.

[No-Bits]

Hi Caroline,

burglar alarm was fitted after, panic alarm was fitted before due to threats made to kill Ralph Bamber and his family...

Categorically untrue.

[Caroline R]

Hi Caroline,

burglar alarm was fitted after, panic alarm was fitted before due to threats made to kill Ralph Bamber and his family...

Everything points to the PB being installed post murders - there is no mention of it anywhere by anyone until after. We also confirmation from Jeremy himself that it was installed after. Also, why would anyone make a call to police and also activate a PB?

[grahameb]

Categorically untrue.

I'm afraid I have to agree with you on that one hartley.

[vidvic]

Hi Caroline,

Yes, I think his evidence has been twisted, and played basically on the timing of the call he received from Jeremy, without both the 3;36am and the 3;26am logs being produced, which clearly do not contain the same information - disclosure of the contents of the 3:26am log did not occur until after the 2002 appeal. If it had been disclosed at the 2002 appeal and compared against the content of the 3;36am log, and laid bare at that stage for all to see, the convictions would almost certainly have been quashed...

What becomes clear by reference to PC Wests court transcript (produced) is that he says he had spoken to the information room on a previous occasion to the one in question, and there was obviously some confusion over which call was made and when. So, there were two calls, not one, with two different times given to a solitary call - there were two calls, not one, he said so in his testimony, basically he was lying through his teeth...

If it wasn't disclosed until after 2002 appeal, why is there a Chelmsford court stamp on it from '86?

[grahameb]

If it wasn't disclosed until after 2002 appeal, why is there a Chelmsford court stamp on it from '86?

Hello Vic. How are you?

[mike tesko]

Categorically untrue.

Yes, it is absolutely true, that there was only one burglar alarm fitted (after the shootings), but a panic button was fitted beforehand in connection with threats made by someone local to kill Ralph and his famiy. Ask yourself what would be the point installing a panic alarm after everybody had all been shot?

[Caroline R]

Yes, it is absolutely true, that there was only one burglar alarm fitted (after the shootings), but a panic button was fitted beforehand in connection with threats made by someone local to kill Ralph and his famiy. Ask yourself what would be the point installing a panic alarm after everybody had all been shot?

There were still people working there and relatives coming and going. It was most likely installed for their peace of mind.

[mike tesko]

There were still people working there and relatives coming and going. It was most likely installed for their peace of mind.

Ok, so you think that the threats to kill Ralph and his family were not taken seriously then, despite Ralph taking time off from his duties as a magistrate, and Ralph confided in people that he had better keep his eye on two people in particular, because the shooting season was due to start soon - who were the two persons being referred to...

[campion]

Hi Mike, It will be of importance to ascertain when Nevill requested the installation of the Panic Alarm/Button, and equally important, when was it fitted?

The 'shooting season' will have been due to start on 'the Glorious Twelfth (of August).
Am I right in thinking that 'Herr Flick' was staying at WHF until the Thursday prior to the massacre, and may well have stayed on but for the anticipated arrival of Sheila and the twins?