Does Jones slip here??????

[Jane]

And I sometimes set my clock 10 minutes fast.....Only sometimes???

So he wanted to carry on buying presents for her but she told him she didn't want presents of him she only wanted money(oops, sorry) him for himself??? I bet.

[tyler]

Notice how the 'silencer' didn't get a mention during questioning? Now that IS odd!

[lookout]

Notice how the 'silencer' didn't get a mention during questioning? Now that IS odd!

It was a red-herring just thrown in for good measure.

[Patti]

Notice how the 'silencer' didn't get a mention during questioning? Now that IS odd!

Hi Tyler   I am amazed there is no mention of the silencer..however I haven't read it all.....Like you WHY? 

[wilf]

thanks for posting the logs it clears things up for me and the logical order of things are revieled among what appears to me to be old fashiond police questioning ( try to confuse them and make them trip up)
the obvious order  Ralph calls Jeremy. phone goes dead. Jeremy confused rings back. engaged. unsure what to do rings Julie. she is no help and proberbly stoned and unlikely to be able to recall time of events later. Jeremy then looks up phone number and calls police. time from the phone going dead from Ralph when Ralph hangs up on Jeremy and phones police 03.26 to call from Jeremy to police 03.37 seems to be a perfectly reasonable time line to me.

wilf

[susan]

Hello wilf  I read that when Jeremy phoned Julie she was a tremendous help to him she told him to go back to bed or words to that effect.  She probably did not have a clue what the exact time was as she did not take the call seriously and therefore the time would not register just my opinion of course.

[No-Bits]

If he phoned Julie first, then why did he say the reason he called Julie was because the police pissed him off?

If he phoned the police first, then why did he say he couldn't speak to Julie for long because he had to call the police?

[No-Bits]

If he phoned Julie first, then why did he say the reason he called Julie was because the police pissed him off?

If he phoned the police first, then why did he say he couldn't speak to Julie for long because he had to call the police?

Nobody else have a problem with this?

[Patti]

thanks for posting the logs it clears things up for me and the logical order of things are revieled among what appears to me to be old fashiond police questioning ( try to confuse them and make them trip up)
the obvious order  Ralph calls Jeremy. phone goes dead. Jeremy confused rings back. engaged. unsure what to do rings Julie. she is no help and proberbly stoned and unlikely to be able to recall time of events later. Jeremy then looks up phone number and calls police. time from the phone going dead from Ralph when Ralph hangs up on Jeremy and phones police 03.26 to call from Jeremy to police 03.37 seems to be a perfectly reasonable time line to me.

wilf

Sounds reasonable to me Wilf. I can go with that.   

[lookout]

thanks for posting the logs it clears things up for me and the logical order of things are revieled among what appears to me to be old fashiond police questioning ( try to confuse them and make them trip up)
the obvious order  Ralph calls Jeremy. phone goes dead. Jeremy confused rings back. engaged. unsure what to do rings Julie. she is no help and proberbly stoned and unlikely to be able to recall time of events later. Jeremy then looks up phone number and calls police. time from the phone going dead from Ralph when Ralph hangs up on Jeremy and phones police 03.26 to call from Jeremy to police 03.37 seems to be a perfectly reasonable time line to me.

wilf

You've got it Wilf.

[No-Bits]

Unfortunately not, a call to the police at 3:37 doesn't give enough time for JB to be at WHF 11 minutes later.

[Patti]

If he phoned Julie first, then why did he say the reason he called Julie was because the police pissed him off?

If he phoned the police first, then why did he say he couldn't speak to Julie for long because he had to call the police?

Jeremy does use the word probably, if you look back at his statement.  He does say two different things but I am in the opinion that he was unsure of the sequence and that Jones was using tactics...Whether I am right or wrong I have no idea.   

[grahameb]

Nevertheless he said it as if he was sure of the time.  I would now like to delve into when Jones approached SB and questioned her about the time of the call....was this before he said this to Jeremy or after....If it was after, did Jones forget that he had told Jeremy in an interview that he knew the time was 3:15.....note he did not say about 

He also said the clock was always accurate. So it is clear that Jones was taking it literally.

[lookout]

thanks for posting the logs it clears things up for me and the logical order of things are revieled among what appears to me to be old fashiond police questioning ( try to confuse them and make them trip up)
the obvious order  Ralph calls Jeremy. phone goes dead. Jeremy confused rings back. engaged. unsure what to do rings Julie. she is no help and proberbly stoned and unlikely to be able to recall time of events later. Jeremy then looks up phone number and calls police. time from the phone going dead from Ralph when Ralph hangs up on Jeremy and phones police 03.26 to call from Jeremy to police 03.37 seems to be a perfectly reasonable time line to me.

wilf

Here's another little riddle-me-ree for you Wilf.
WPC Jeapes had spotted a rifle leaning up against the " corridor " window,at 7.15am.Right.? How did it get onto Sheilas' chest after that,, do you think.? This was actually before the raid team entered.

[grahameb]

So is it red, or is it green.

In one instance he says that he didn't speak to JM for long, because he had to phone the police. 

Yet in the next instance, he says that he phoned JM because he was pissed off with the police. 

That's not a muddle up, that's a cock up.

Perhaps he was talking about the phone call he made to her later?