House of Commons Debate - Andrew Hunter/Fiona Mactaggart 2005

[maggie]

A bloodstain belonging to June Bamber was found outside Sheila Caffell's bedroom that morning. Had June moved out of bed after all,or more likely did Jeremy leave it after killing her and proceeding to Sheila's door,dragging the blood on his shoes with him to enact the final part of this most wicked plan..

Or did Sheila return to her bedroom after killing June?  Where did you read about that bloodstain, it's new to me.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeremy planned the murders for a year. It's when he started to be nice to Ann Eaton as he realized he would need her onside in the aftermath,and it ties in with Julie's statements.

[Jane]

  Whatever it is april, it's good 

Maggie, I'm still laughing. This is black comedy at its finest. We now have Nevill KNOWING what's about to happen to his family and does **** all about it. I'm reminded of the Grandee advert in which when all around him is chaos, the guy just sits and smokes a cigar.

[maggie]

Jeremy planned the murders for a year. It's when he started to be nice to Ann Eaton as he realized he would need her onside in the aftermath,and it ties in with Julie's statements.

Oh, OK, if you say so Steve. 

[Steve_uk]

Or did Sheila return to her bedroom after killing June?  Where did you read about that bloodstain, it's new to me.

It's in Andrew Hunter's book draft,which is overwhelmingly favourable to Jeremy.

[maggie]

Maggie, I'm still laughing. This is black comedy at its finest. We now have Nevill KNOWING what's about to happen to his family and does **** all about it. I'm reminded of the Grandee advert in which when all around him is chaos, the guy just sits and smokes a cigar.

I remember that April, it certainly fits Steves scenario 

[Jane]

Jeremy planned the murders for a year. It's when he started to be nice to Ann Eaton as he realized he would need her onside in the aftermath,and it ties in with Julie's statements.

No, no, NO Steve. What you mean is, Julie SAID jeremy had, and Ann's lust to lay her hands on what WASN'T hers puts her in the same catagory as Julie.

[Caroline R]

16) A 12 bore shotgun with one spent cartridge was seized from the Farm by SOCO with Nevill and Sheila's fingerprints on it.

That's right - how is any of this pointing to Jeremy being the killer?? 

[maggie]

It's in Andrew Hunter's book draft,which is overwhelmingly favourable to Jeremy.

I must have forgotten that part and yes I know it's favourable to Jeremy as Andrew Hunter believes Jeremy is innocent.  Much more evidence has come to light since AH wrote his draft.

[HMEssex]

15) A local resident reported to the Police that he had heard a gunshot come from the direction of White House Farm on the evening of 6 August 1985 between 9:30 pm and 10:15pm.

Was Jeremy priming that rifle for murder..is this why Nevill was so short with Barbara on the telephone,with Jeremy blasting out his evil intent as the children lay frightened in bed,and Nevill realizing finally that his son was out of control? Was Jeremy signalling to all within that the new order would begin in a few hours' time,as the bystander who heard this report seemed puzzled for a moment,then continued his nocturnal perambulation with his dog trotting happily by his side..

Jeremy had left WHF by then.

I've always thought that was more likely to be Sheila, hence why Nevill was so short with Barbara.

The rest is due to your vivid imagination - the report only says 'a local resident'.

[maggie]

Jeremy had left WHF by then.

I've always thought that was more likely to be Sheila, hence why Nevill was so short with Barbara.

The rest is due to your vivid imagination - the report only says 'a local resident'.

Particularly as they found Sheila's fingerprints on it HME

[lookout]

Strange how the relatives " live in fear " of Jeremy being released,,but for a year,1985 to '86,,nobody seemed perturbed while Jeremy was out and about considering he'd " blasted all his family " and was even offered a rifle at the time,,despite their thoughts ?
Anyone who thought that he'd killed his family,,as they all did,,would surely have kept their distance.? I know I would.