Marks made later, sensation:-

[mike tesko]

What is interesting, regarding the detail recorded in the above diagram, is that DS Davidson took these two cast impressions (ND,48 and ND/49) on 1st October 1985, and that he identified regular scratches in these - consistent with the pattern of the rifles metal end cap that normally screws onto the end of the threaded barrel. With this in mind, I would like you all to consider what DS Davidson said to the COLP investigators in 1991 / 92 - when he was being questioned by COLP about the existence of a paint sample bearing the identifying mark RC/1 which came into existence on 8th August 1985, Davidson told colp THAT THE REASON that paint sample (RC/1) was taken on 8th August 1985, was because some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel, downstairs. He reiterated to COLP that he was not talking about paint being found on the end of a silencer, he was specific, he told them he was referring to paint found on the end of a guns barrell...

It becomes clear to me, that the marks of which DS Davidson made casts, had been made by the end of a guns barrel, not by a silencer, and more importantly, the gun barrel which made those marks, could have been made anytime before the day of the shootings...

I have no doubt at all in my mind, that additional marks were made on the aga surround by use of a silencer, or two, or three, which would explain why ingrained paint was found in the knurl of one or other of the silencers...

[mike tesko]

Since, DS Davidson identified to the COLP investigators in 1992, that paint had been found on the end of a guns barrell (downstairs), it is imperative that every effort is made to compel Essex police to reveal all information about this / that gun, since it is almost cetain that any marks present on the aga surround on the morning of 7th August 1985, were caused by the end of a guns barrell coming into contact there, but not necessarily during the shootings...

[mike tesko]

The regulated marks found within the indentation of the gouge, by DS Davidson, on 1st October 1985, could have been made by the end of a guns barrel, not a silencer, but a rifles metal end cap, or even the thread on the end of a guns barrel = for these reasons, the casts of the gouge which were taken at the scene by DS Davidson, need to be examined and looked at scientifically to see if it is possible to resolve this matter, one way or another...

Additionally, the gun with paint found on the end of its barrel, as alluded to by DS Davidson in his COLP interview (1992), needs to be identified as a matter of urgency, and the barrel of that gun forensically examined with a view to linking it to the gouge mark under the aga mantlepiece, and the casts of that gouge made by Davidson on 1st October 1985...

[mike tesko]

Seize the casts made by DS Davidson, and get them examined by an expert, with a view to identifying the item which made the gouge beneath the aga shelf...

[tyler]

Since, DS Davidson identified to the COLP investigators in 1992, that paint had been found on the end of a guns barrell (downstairs), it is imperative that every effort is made to compel Essex police to reveal all information about this / that gun, since it is almost cetain that any marks present on the aga surround on the morning of 7th August 1985, were caused by the end of a guns barrell coming into contact there, but not necessarily during the shootings...

Yes,the end of a guns barrell and NOT a silencer.He was very specific about that wasn't he. From his COLP evidence it appeared that he wasn't 'in' on the bogus paint 'evidence'. He admitted that it was dealt with by 'dodgy' Cook!

[mike tesko]

Seize the gun which had paint on the end of its barrel, and check to see if the paint found there was from the red painted aga surround...

[mike tesko]

Yes,the end of a guns barrell and NOT a silencer.He was very specific about that wasn't he. From his COLP evidence it appeared that he wasn't 'in' on the bogus paint 'evidence'. He admitted that it was dealt with by 'dodgy' Cook!

Yes, I agree...

[mike tesko]

Later today, I am visiting Full Sutton...

I will update everyone later...

[lookout]

Later today, I am visiting Full Sutton...

I will update everyone later...

Hi Mike,,we all send our good wishes to Jeremy and are with him in thought every step of the way.
Looking forward to what you have to say later. Take care.
Hope your wife is progressing nicely.

[campion]

Thankyou Mike for clarifying for u s plebs, the positioning of the scratch marks under the mantle of the surround to the Aga.
May I put in my "pennorth" re the suspended striped Blazer(possibly June's?)? It is likely that it was hanging from the wooden barred airer, which was hanging down from the kitchen ceiling. Ergo an optical illusion that it was adjacent to the mantelpiece.
I shall desist on commenting on your visit today, but obviously most of us are agog, just to say "all power to your elbow".
Ditto as per very appropriate wishes from lookout!

[Steve_uk]

Yet, the blue and white striped jacket which can clearly be seen to be hanging there, was not even made into an exhibit. But it was arguably a very significant piece of evidence, since as it were, it served to protect the very area where marks and scratches later became photographed (12th September 1985). With this in mind, I would like to invite you all to look at that part of the blue and white striped jacket which is hanging below the level of the mantlepiece shelf, I would like to suggest to you all that the overlapping part of the jacket, is either slightly greater than the distance beneath the mantlepiece, so that anything coming into contact with the underside of the mantlepiece on that part of the aga, would also have  come into direct contact with the jacket, thus lifting it up against the underside of the shelf, and preventing the sort of gouge mark shown in the image being made there, without also damaging the material of the jacket in question. Basically, what I am trying to say is that you might not only get one gouging on the underside of the shelf, you would also get some damage to the material of the jacket which was covering that particular part of the aga at the time of the shootings...

No such damage exists on the material of the jacket, and no fibers from the said jacket were found to embedded into the gouge and scratches - this gives a good indication that the story about the silencer being fitted to the guns barrel at the time of a purported struggle between Ralph and his killer is probably bogus...

..the said item of apparel could have been placed there by Jeremy after the scratches were made in the hope that they would be concealed in the process.

[lookout]

You don't give up,do you,Steve. ?
Why would Jeremy have been bothered about replacing items of clothing.? If it was made to look like a break-in,you don't start tidying up.

[Jane]

..the said item of apparel could have been placed there by Jeremy after the scratches were made in the hope that they would be concealed in the process.

Yes Steve, and I guess it may STILL be possible that the moon is made of cheese, which I actually find easier to understand than why a person of your obvious intelligence should wish to be seen as, now, now April, a little circumspection, if you please.....................a person who comes up with some unlikely/improbable/unworkable/and often VERY SILLY theories.

[Steve_uk]

You don't give up,do you,Steve. ?
Why would Jeremy have been bothered about replacing items of clothing.? If it was made to look like a break-in,you don't start tidying up.

But all witnesses to the state of the house the preceding evening had been slain,and who mentioned a break-in..Jeremy just had to make it look like Sheila had done it.

[tyler]

Police asked thhe housekeeper if anything was out of place. She only mentioned the items around the sink area,which it later emerged the police had moved whilst clearing up!