ECHR ..... now - Killers' life terms 'breached their human rights'

[killingeve]

Hiya NN

Wow you're bright and bushy tailed early on a Sat morning 

Yes I agree IMO GR was hopeless and has a lot to answer for.  Think he was taken in, swayed and in awe of the middle class, law abiding, land owners  . Had they have been from a working class background with previous I bet he wldn't have been as 'light touch' in his cross examination. Think he's from the North and normally operated on the Northern circuit.  Think AA and LJK were offay with the South Wonder if
at any stage GR was thinking about his long term career  . Not too keen on the protocol ie all this m'lud
seems a bit unhealthy ie too deferential 

Hi NN

Just been going to the gym early.  In overdrive to get the bod honed for the beach  . Plus in the process of moving home so lots to do.

Hohoho let's say imo that trial was the equivalent of the best attackers (prosecutors) from Premiership and the worst defenders from pub teams.  Posters bang on about EP, JM and the rellies, and not without good reason, however if JB have had a half decent defence it wld never have got to this.  EP, JM and the rellies were allowed to get away quite literally with murder as JB had no real line of defence. 

[campion]

Salutations NN, Do mean by 'Offay' the French idiom Au fait? From Post @580,you state:- "the reason the Defence arranged for the relations to provide Blood samples". Is my understanding correct that RWB, CAE and Sheila all had the same blood groupings? What would be the likelihood of this occurring? Consequent to this, can one assume there may well be an aspect of Blood Relations. DNA will supply the definitive solution. If this were to be the case, then Sheila's birth registry at Bristol, in which district the RAC comes, and Sheila's Birth mother emanating from Tiptree could conjure up curious connotations. Your thoughts s'il vous plait.

[killingeve]

Hi NN

Just been going to the gym early.  In overdrive to get the bod honed for the beach  . Plus in the process of moving home so lots to do.

Hohoho let's say imo that trial was the equivalent of the best attackers (prosecutors) from Premiership and the worst defenders from pub teams.  Posters bang on about EP, JM and the rellies, and not without good reason, however if JB have had a half decent defence it wld never have got to this.  EP, JM and the rellies were allowed to get away quite literally with murder as JB had no real line of defence.

Hi NN

Just been going to the gym early.  In overdrive to get the bod honed for the beach  . Plus in the process of moving home so lots to do.

Hohoho let's say imo that trial was the equivalent of the best attackers (prosecutors) from Premiership and the worst defenders from pub teams.  Posters bang on about EP, JM and the rellies, and not without good reason, however if JB have had a half decent defence it wld never have got to this.  EP, JM and the rellies were allowed to get away quite literally with murder as JB had no real line of defence.

NN just a quickie as I have to get on now.  Yeah totally agree.  Banging on about rellies, JM and EP is peripheral IMO.  The buck shld stop with social services for allowing June to keep SC and worst still adopt another new born . The woman adopts and then suffers serious depression as a result of her decision to adopt so much she requires in-patient psychiatric care  but she's allowed to keep SC and adopt JB.  All a recipe for disaster from day 1.  Again like GR with RB many don't see any issue here they are taken in by outward appearances: God fearing, church warden, charitable works etc.  All very noble of course but it doesn't necessarily equate to a suitable adoptive mother in terms of providing an emotionally healthy home environment for adopted children.

I blame the authorities: social services as above and GR for not defending JB.

[killingeve]

NN just a quickie as I have to get on now.  Yeah totally agree.  Banging on about rellies, JM and EP is peripheral IMO.  The buck shld stop with social services for allowing June to keep SC and worst still adopt another new born . The woman adopts and then suffers serious depression as a result of her decision to adopt so much she requires in-patient psychiatric care  but she's allowed to keep SC and adopt JB.  All a recipe for disaster from day 1.  Again like GR with RB many don't see any issue here they are taken in by outward appearances: God fearing, church warden, charitable works etc.  All very noble of course but it doesn't necessarily equate to a suitable adoptive mother in terms of providing an emotionally healthy home environment for adopted children.

I blame the authorities: social services as above and GR for not defending JB.

Lol NN didn't Lord Justice Kay make comment on JB hiding behind an outward appearance of respectability and civility or words to this effect  .

[killingeve]

Salutations NN, Do mean by 'Offay' the French idiom Au fait? From Post @580,you state:- "the reason the Defence arranged for the relations to provide Blood samples". Is my understanding correct that RWB, CAE and Sheila all had the same blood groupings? What would be the likelihood of this occurring? Consequent to this, can one assume there may well be an aspect of Blood Relations. DNA will supply the definitive solution. If this were to be the case, then Sheila's birth registry at Bristol, in which district the RAC comes, and Sheila's Birth mother emanating from Tiptree could conjure up curious connotations. Your thoughts s'il vous plait.

Good morning Campion

I hope you are well  . Btw I love the way you write your posts.

RB's blood type/group certainly matched that found in the silencer and SC's - not sure about AE's.  I have often wondered if 'blood relations' were present  . We shall see  .  I will try to look into this further.

[Patti]

Bump!  For those that are interested in reading the full document surrounding the ECHR decision here it is....

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2013/645.html