ECHR ..... now - Killers' life terms 'breached their human rights'

[killingeve]

Hi Girls

  I've never 'had' a younger man but feel a first coming on    My first lover was half Italian and 24 yoa when we met but was lovely in every way.  Don't think you can generalise about age.  When I was younger I was into older men but now I'm older  an older man seems less appealing  metaphorically speaking of course 

Susan the hippy guy sounds so exciting.  The thought of running fingers through a man's long hair sounds a real turn on  Think Sergio Ramos or Rafael Nadal...

http://justagirlandherpups.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/sergio-ramos-shirtless-2.jpg

[susan]

Hi N/N unfortunately my hippy boyfriend looked like neither funny enough he is a cop now.  The great part about him was all his hippy male friends

[Caroline R]

I sense an air of sexual tension and frustration - perhaps y'all need a cold shower to help you remember the topic? 

[killingeve]

I sense an air of sexual tension and frustration - perhaps y'all need a cold shower to help you remember the topic? 

Hi 'Caroline'

Not really MISS just a bit bored  . 

Some engage in 'naughty' pm's  others are open forum  . They say the quiet ones are the worst   

[Caroline R]

Hi 'Caroline'

Not really MISS just a bit bored  . 

Some engage in 'naughty' pm's  others are open forum  . They say the quiet ones are the worst   

Do they? Each to their own (I suppose) -  Now, back to the toipc 

[Jane]

Do they? Each to their own (I suppose) -  Now, back to the toipc 

There is something which bothers me about "human rights." To me, it's along the same lines as all of us being equal, but some of us are MORE equal than others. If a lawyer is prepared to argue that a person's human rights are being violated, surely another lawyer could argue, that as that person had violated the same rights of another person, and subsequently through murdering them, their family, they have by such an action, sacrificed their own rights to claim human rights.

[nugnug]

i thank god we've got the European court of human rights.

[Caroline R]

There is something which bothers me about "human rights." To me, it's along the same lines as all of us being equal, but some of us are MORE equal than others. If a lawyer is prepared to argue that a person's human rights are being violated, surely another lawyer could argue, that as that person had violated the same rights of another person, and subsequently through murdering them, their family, they have by such an action, sacrificed their own rights to claim human rights.

I don't think it works like that April, you can't compromise your own human rights (unless you can cease to be human - literally) no matter what you may do to someone else. The rights go with being 'human' - the law can only take away your 'liberty' not your human rights.

[Jane]

I don't think it works like that April, you can't compromise your own human rights (unless you can cease to be human - literally) no matter what you may do to someone else. The rights go with being 'human' - the law can only take away your 'liberty' not your human rights.

Which forms part of the difficulty I have with it, Caroline. It seems to me that that when these "rights" conflict one person's human rights can be overlooked/set aside in favour of someone elses. Rarely does it seem to be about who is the most deserving..............and I'm fully aware that life isn't always fair :D

[maggie]

i thank god we've got the European court of human rights.

So do I nugnug.  This government hates it because they have to toe the line.  People forget what human rights covers........ working conditions and every aspect of life.  Can live with the odd anomaly to have the rest. imo

[lookout]

Hi April,,I can understand what you're saying as regards " rights ".They're very selective at that given time,,and it's difficult for me to try and explain as I tend to go round the houses in trying to say what I mean. Rights aren't always implemented at the appropriate time,,and aren't considered in certain areas when it's deemed necessary.
( I know what I mean even if nobody else does  )

[Jane]

Hi April,,I can understand what you're saying as regards " rights ".They're very selective at that given time,,and it's difficult for me to try and explain as I tend to go round the houses in trying to say what I mean. Rights aren't always implemented at the appropriate time,,and aren't considered in certain areas when it's deemed necessary.
( I know what I mean even if nobody else does  )

Lookout, I THINK we may be singing from the same page but I still can't help feeling that claiming ones "rights" works better in isolation rather than in conflict with another persons.

[lookout]

Lookout, I THINK we may be singing from the same page but I still can't help feeling that claiming ones "rights" works better in isolation rather than in conflict with another persons.

April,,that's what I was trying to say. Told you I " go round the houses ".

[susan]

lookout/april  really glad you two have got that sorted thought I was going to be called on as referee

[Jane]

lookout/april  really glad you two have got that sorted thought I was going to be called on as referee

Lookout/Susan It's quite a relief. Phew