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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #180 on: July 03, 2013, 08:58:AM »
Morning april  sorry am I missing something here why would Jeremy want to tell anyone he could easily kill his family for this to get back to Ralph does not make sense to me at all.  Don't think he ever said it if he did he was trying to act the big man which he was'ent to RWB.  It would not have been meant literally I am always threatening to kill somebody but it is just a figure of speech ;D ;D ;D ;D  you are not on my list april don't worry ;D


Susan, HELLO :) I think Jeremy was well aware that RWB reported back to Nevill much of what he said and the chances are he knew because Nevill told him. So whether it was a throw away line of the kind we've all used or said deliberately to provoke RWB, I think Jeremy was out to prove his uncle was a lying barsteward.



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« Reply #181 on: July 03, 2013, 09:10:AM »
Hello april dear  you have a lovely way with words not unlike our dear friend campion ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #182 on: July 03, 2013, 09:41:AM »
Hello april dear  you have a lovely way with words not unlike our dear friend campion ;D ;D ;D



Susan dear, perhaps "Wordsmith" would be an apt description ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #183 on: July 03, 2013, 09:51:AM »
april you do make me laugh as does camps ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #184 on: July 03, 2013, 10:08:AM »
april you do make me laugh as does camps ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Susan dear, I know my place ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #185 on: July 03, 2013, 02:51:PM »
I don't profess to be an expert in this area of law, but it is correct that you forfeit your right to inherit from the will of a person you are convicted of murdering.


I don't understand why this is under debate. Any property used or sold by Jeremy before his conviction was his as the sole heir. That right may have been removed by law, but only after the fact.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #186 on: July 03, 2013, 03:40:PM »
I don't understand why this is under debate. Any property used or sold by Jeremy before his conviction was his as the sole heir. That right may have been removed by law, but only after the fact.


Interested-observer, it's good to meet you. May I address you as IO, please? It sounds as if you are saying that on death of his family, as sole heir, Jeremy inherited. The law allowed the family to take over his inheritance AFTER he was convicted. If I have this wrong, please feel free to correct me.

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« Reply #187 on: July 03, 2013, 04:02:PM »

Interested-observer, it's good to meet you. May I address you as IO, please? It sounds as if you are saying that on death of his family, as sole heir, Jeremy inherited. The law allowed the family to take over his inheritance AFTER he was convicted. If I have this wrong, please feel free to correct me.

That's correct April  ;D ;D

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #188 on: July 03, 2013, 04:10:PM »
I don't understand why this is under debate. Any property used or sold by Jeremy before his conviction was his as the sole heir. That right may have been removed by law, but only after the fact.

I don't understand it either IO. He had every right to do whatever he saw fit with the 'treasures' from WHF and it was none of the relatives business. RB actually had him followed when he moved items from the farm to Sheila's flat - why should his nose have been out of joint (and in other people's business) simply because Jeremy sold his own possessions? It just demonstrates to me that he didn't regard Jeremy as part of the family and resented him.

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« Reply #189 on: July 03, 2013, 04:23:PM »
I don't understand it either IO. He had every right to do whatever he saw fit with the 'treasures' from WHF and it was none of the relatives business. RB actually had him followed when he moved items from the farm to Sheila's flat - why should his nose have been out of joint (and in other people's business) simply because Jeremy sold his own possessions? It just demonstrates to me that he didn't regard Jeremy as part of the family and resented him.


Caroline, many thanks for confirming that my own opinion was correct :D It doesn't take too great a leap of imagination to think that RWB believed the "treasures" Jeremy sold, which were HIS to sell, rightfully belonged to himself.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #190 on: July 03, 2013, 04:33:PM »
Hello Caroline  the arrogance of that RB is not real.  He sounded to be a terrible control freak and used every opportunity to try and discredit Jeremy as was said all the possessions were his to sell, give away or do what he wanted with.  That was short lived :'(

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« Reply #191 on: July 03, 2013, 06:42:PM »
Hello Caroline  the arrogance of that RB is not real.  He sounded to be a terrible control freak and used every opportunity to try and discredit Jeremy as was said all the possessions were his to sell, give away or do what he wanted with.  That was short lived :'(

Hi Susan, I just can't believe that ALL of the evidence was found AFTER the police were supposed to have completed a search. Moderator in the gun cupboard, scratches on the aga, jigsaw blade under the window, scratches on the catch. The weird thing is, the evidence seemed to grow out of the relatives theory when usually a theory develops from the evidence 'after' it is found.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #192 on: July 03, 2013, 07:06:PM »
Hi Caroline  at the end of every theory is money thats what motivates people and they start to believe themselves what suits them to believe and they find evidence that everyone else has missed. I have always wondered why would the relatives be searching the gun cupboard what did they hope to find and how come EP missed all this VITAL evidence after the murders at WHF.  Very strange to say the least.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #193 on: July 03, 2013, 07:07:PM »
Hi Susan, I just can't believe that ALL of the evidence was found AFTER the police were supposed to have completed a search. Moderator in the gun cupboard, scratches on the aga, jigsaw blade under the window, scratches on the catch. The weird thing is, the evidence seemed to grow out of the relatives theory when usually a theory develops from the evidence 'after' it is found.


But Caroline, because the rellies had produced the "evidence" of Jeremy's guilt before the police did, it stands to reasom that they would have provided the police with the theory to go with it, as borne out in RWB's "diary."

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« Reply #194 on: July 03, 2013, 07:18:PM »

But Caroline, because the rellies had produced the "evidence" of Jeremy's guilt before the police did, it stands to reasom that they would have provided the police with the theory to go with it, as borne out in RWB's "diary."

There was of course someone else who resented Jeremy from the off. Someone who had the ability to 'animate' the rellies theory or maybe even help it develop.