Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-

[Steve_uk]

You appear stuck on David Bain and catathymic crisis.

You've just reminded me:I must order James McNeish's book "The Mask of Sanity"..

[Jane]

You've just reminded me:I must order James McNeish's book "The Mask of Sanity"..

If you read it online you won't have to lurk behind pillers in bookshops

[Steve_uk]

Steve, are you asking me to believe that up till then RWB had loved jeremy as one of his own children. This is the man who used every opportuninty to drip poison about Jeremy into Nevills ear. This was the man who may have worked out that whilst June and Nevill were childless, their fortune would find its way into his branch of their family, something he never acknowledged Sheila and jeremy as being part of.

Well if someone had told you they could easily murder their parents I think they have a right to intercede.

[Steve_uk]

If you read it online you won't have to lurk behind pillers in bookshops

I'll let Waterstones order it. If they went bankrupt we'd only get another off license,bookies,ecig or pound shop.

[Jane]

Well if someone had told you they could easily murder their parents I think they have a right to intercede.

Steve, as strongly as you believe Jeremy to be guilty, I believe AS strongly that RWB resented him from the moment he was adopted because as Nevills heir he would get the lions share, which as non blood family he shouldn't have been entitled to. I think it's possible that he may, at some point, have even spoken with Nevill about it. I certainly find it strange that he told tales about Jeremy/made sly innuendos about him to Nevill and I believe that in order to do that he twisted everything that Jeremy said and took his words out of context. This, IMO, had been going on since Jeremy was a child. It was never Jeremy's place to form a relationship with RWB. As the adult, it was up to RWB to make the relationship with him. Children KNOW when they're disliked and I think Jeremy must have known that RWB disliked him.

[Jane]

I'll let Waterstones order it. If they went bankrupt we'd only get another off license,bookies,ecig or pound shop.

I agree that Waterstones is a much moe salubrious option.

[Caroline R]

Steve, as strongly as you believe Jeremy to be guilty, I believe AS strongly that RWB resented him from the moment he was adopted because as Nevills heir he would get the lions share, which as non blood family he shouldn't have been entitled to. I think it's possible that he may, at some point, have even spoken with Nevill about it. I certainly find it strange that he told tales about Jeremy/made sly innuendos about him to Nevill and I believe that in order to do that he twisted everything that Jeremy said and took his words out of context. This, IMO, had been going on since Jeremy was a child. It was never Jeremy's place to form a relationship with RWB. As the adult, it was up to RWB to make the relationship with him. Children KNOW when they're disliked and I think Jeremy must have known that RWB disliked him.

I think he knew that none of them seemed to have time for him. His comments to AE sound to me to be sarcasm - "I'm your favourite cousin" (when he knew he wasn't) meant the opposite.

[Jane]

I think he knew that none of them seemed to have time for him. His comments to AE sound to me to be sarcasm - "I'm your favourite cousin" (when he knew he wasn't) meant the opposite.

Yes Caroline, that's how it sounds to me, too. It's also possible that he told RWB that he could easily kill his parents because he knew that it was likely to be passed on to Nevill.

[lookout]

Yes Caroline, that's how it sounds to me, too. It's also possible that he told RWB that he could easily kill his parents because he knew that it was likely to be passed on to Nevill.

Caroline,,I agree with you here.I think Jeremy was " testing " them all out. Whether his father had ever hinted at any time,,on the lines of a gentle warning,it's quite possible. Sounding them all out.

[lookout]

Caroline,,I agree with you here.I think Jeremy was " testing " them all out. Whether his father had ever hinted at any time,,on the lines of a gentle warning,it's quite possible. Sounding them all out.

I also think that Jeremy did it to Julie as well,as he was beginning to shake off his " sheltered environment " at WHF,into the big wide world . I think Neville may have given a few gentle hints too,as he was no fool.

[susan]

Morning steve  Jeremy saying I could easily murder my parents to whom was this said and who witnessed this statement. 

[susan]

Morning april  sorry am I missing something here why would Jeremy want to tell anyone he could easily kill his family for this to get back to Ralph does not make sense to me at all.  Don't think he ever said it if he did he was trying to act the big man which he was'ent to RWB.  It would not have been meant literally I am always threatening to kill somebody but it is just a figure of speech   you are not on my list april don't worry

[susan]

Morning steve  may I ask what is wrong with pound shops many people not as well off as yourself rely on pound shops with the budget they have could never afford Waterstones. You seem to skim read all the books in Waterstones so if they go bankrupt it will be down to people like yourself.

[campion]

Top of the morning to you Susan,  Our thanks to Caroline for blowing the feather up (post #131).  I am still intrigued by it, and also by Steve's apparent reluctance to put in his "pen north" on any meaningful observation on it. Can we read any significance into this most obvious "sidestep" of a Pele aficionado? Patti' post #132, wondering what the feather has been attached to -  my guess is  that it may be a wine cork, with colouring from red wine. The feather was poked in through the corkscrew hole. Susie, whomever did it, maybe they were having a "lark", which is what you get up with!!

[susan]

morning campion  what a delight you are don't understand much of what you say but I know it would make sense if I could the feather could have been attached at one time to a ladies brooch maybe Jeremy had a friend who was inclinded to wearing such things.  Yes I will go for brooch could be a hat but rather too small for that