Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-

[Jane]

Well this thread is about Jeremy's mental state..I'm only putting something out there and bringing the thread back on track.

I'll let you have that one, Steve :D :D

[lookout]

Well this thread is about Jeremy's mental state..I'm only putting something out there and bringing the thread back on track.

Whatever you say yourself,Steve.

[Caroline R]

Another similar case - was this guy psychotic or as some believe, a control freak?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-20123158

Interestingly, he was sentenced (manslaughter) for 30 years and is serving his sentence in 'Full Sutton'

[susan]

Morning steve

If Jeremy Bamber is released from prison why on earth would the surviving relatives live in fear of him coming after them with a rifle. Do they feel guilty with regard to his incareration.  When Jeremy is released the only thing he will be interested in is trying to recover what was rightfully his and nothing more.  I am still trying to figure out why you would think they are in fear of Jeremy being released do they feel they have wronged him in someway and he wants revenge.

[lookout]

Another similar case - was this guy psychotic or as some believe, a control freak?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-20123158

Interestingly, he was sentenced (manslaughter) for 30 years and is serving his sentence in 'Full Sutton'

Hi Caroline,,I wonder why the guy isn't in Ashworth.? Detained under the Mental Health Act.?
Had Sheila have lived,,she too would have been in a secure " institution ".

[Caroline R]

Hi Caroline,,I wonder why the guy isn't in Ashworth.? Detained under the Mental Health Act.?
Had Sheila have lived,,she too would have been in a secure " institution ".

Hi Lookout, I think it was because his psychosis was deemed to be a one off - put down to the fact that he had been driving the previous day for over 24 hours straight and he was suffering from stress and depression. Interestingly, he killed the only other man in the group first so there was an element of planning.

[lookout]

Hi Lookout, I think it was because his psychosis was deemed to be a one off - put down to the fact that he had been driving the previous day for over 24 hours straight and he was suffering from stress and depression. Interestingly, he killed the only other man in the group first so there was an element of planning.

Yes,of course,Caroline. This is why it annoys me that no time of death was put on the bodies at WHF. Such an important factor in a mass murder. Just why was that never done.?

[tyler]

Susan,the relatives aren't frightened that Jeremy would go after them with a rifle,they are frightened he would go after them for HIS money! During a previous appeal,the Boutflours farm went up for sale and allegedly they were planning to go to the Isle of Man. So much for wanting to keep the Speakman estate intact eh? !!

[lookout]

Susan,the relatives aren't frightened that Jeremy would go after them with a rifle,they are frightened he would go after them for HIS money! During a previous appeal,the Boutflours farm went up for sale and allegedly they were planning to go to the Isle of Man. So much for wanting to keep the Speakman estate intact eh? !!

Yes,,I thought that was more to the point,tyler. My word,,how can they live in peace knowing that they " assisted " in sending an innocent man to prison.?

[susan]

Hi lookout  money,possessions and power are far more important to some people than a man's freedom and rights.  Anyone who could do that are people without a soul and they will have to meet their maker at some stage.

[lookout]

Hi lookout  money,possessions and power are far more important to some people than a man's freedom and rights.  Anyone who could do that are people without a soul and they will have to meet their maker at some stage.

I just think it's downright disgusting,Susan. That they blatantly blamed him ( hours after the murders might I add ) then for the next 12 months or so,,the mud-slinging and accusations behind Jeremys' back. They went to great lengths to make sure they got what would have been eventually theirs,but were too impatient to wait,,and hated the thought of a " cuckoo " having " what should be theirs ".Despicable.

[susan]

lookout  remember the saying "what goes around comes around" and take it from me Jeremy Bamber will have his day.  He has tremendous public support and many local  people have changed their stance  from guilty to not guilty.

[lookout]

lookout  remember the saying "what goes around comes around" and take it from me Jeremy Bamber will have his day.  He has tremendous public support and many local  people have changed their stance  from guilty to not guilty.

Yes,Susan,,things have changed since the public were made aware of MOJ's in general,,but Jeremys' case has taken on a new awareness where you have not only suspicion toward the motives of the family,,which the jury didn't know of,,,but also police corruption which is highlighted today in the newspapers.

[susan]

lookout who would ever have thought that such corruption could be going on in our major police forces it will all come out now as people will dig and dig till the truth is out.  We the public deserve that and so do the MOJ's cases.

[lookout]

lookout who would ever have thought that such corruption could be going on in our major police forces it will all come out now as people will dig and dig till the truth is out.  We the public deserve that and so do the MOJ's cases.

Indeed people deserve to know,Susan. These cases,,like Jeremys',,,go on and on,conveniently so, that those officers concerned make sure that their pension is safe for later. This is what's happening. All those who were concerned in the Bamber case will have retired or died,,so they don't care.