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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2013, 02:07:PM »
A conviction secured by relatives on the make, who stood to rob poor Jeremy of everything in law he was entitled to...

Shame on the lot of them, and the system that went along with orchestrating this miscarriage of justice...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2013, 02:18:PM »
After the conviction they did because he has disinherited himself through his crimes. I'm sure Petey will point us to the law on this point.

I don't profess to be an expert in this area of law, but it is correct that you forfeit your right to inherit from the will of a person you are convicted of murdering.

It has caused much debate over the years, with regards whether heirs have a claim instead. There is also debate regarding 'lesser' crimes such as whether can benefit if guilty of manslaughter by diminished responsibility.

The position is much clearer in America, where they have 'Slayer's Rule' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slayer_rule

A similar rule has been proposed and debated to be introduced in England.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2013, 02:49:PM »
I stumbled on the theory of catathymic crisis quite by accident after researching the cases of William Bradford Bishop and David Bain,but it does explain unerringly what might be going on in a seemingly calm outward exterior.http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02803681

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2013, 02:53:PM »
Relatives, orchestrated a plan to put Jeremy in the frame as being responsible for having committed these murders, when if truth be known, relatives of an accused would normally be rallying around  them to help establish their innocence - whereas, inheritance seems to be to the fore in the circumstances of this case...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2013, 02:57:PM »
I stumbled on the theory of catathymic crisis quite by accident after researching the cases of William Bradford Bishop and David Bain,but it does explain unerringly what might be going on in a seemingly calm outward exterior.http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02803681





That accounts for most people,Steve,,but doesn't necessarily mean that they'll go on to commit murder.
We can all have such thoughts,but they don't amount to anything. This is all it is------------a theory.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2013, 03:21:PM »
Mike the worst thing Jeremy was deprived of was his freedom :( money and material things are not everything well I suppose they are to some people.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2013, 03:24:PM »




That accounts for most people,Steve,,but doesn't necessarily mean that they'll go on to commit murder.
We can all have such thoughts,but they don't amount to anything. This is all it is------------a theory.
Jeremy Bamber,David Bain,William Bradford Bishop..in their minds their family doesn't deserve to live..they are the only ones who do..think of the note typed on the computer in the Bain case,and afterwards they put on a show but they possess an inner calm as the horrible deeds have been accomplished. This is an insight to Jeremy Bamber's mind on the occasion of the funerals.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2013, 03:29:PM »
steve uk from what I have read Jeremy did not put the type of show on at his trial that you are indicating infact he would have faired much better if he had done a Julie and never stopped crying.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2013, 03:36:PM »
steve uk from what I have read Jeremy did not put the type of show on at his trial that you are indicating infact he would have faired much better if he had done a Julie and never stopped crying.
He broke down as the cortege passed the television cameras.

Offline mike tesko

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2013, 03:42:PM »
He broke down as the cortege passed the television cameras.

If Jeremys reaction was genuine one, at which do you think he was entitled to break down?
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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2013, 03:44:PM »
steve uk  I am not talking about the funeral but the actual trial if he was as guilty and as clever as you say he was he would have been sobbing his heart out like Julie at every question put to him.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2013, 03:46:PM »
If Jeremys reaction was genuine one, at which do you think he was entitled to break down?
Unfortunately it's a pattern of behaviour in Jeremy's case where he fits the action to the moment,whether it's playing childish pranks on friends,buying Julie red roses or shooting defenceless six year-old boys in the back of the head..

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2013, 03:59:PM »
steve shame on Julie Mugford for not preventing Jeremy shooting defenceless young 6 year olds in the back of the head we all know she could not as Jeremy was not responsible for the murders at WHF give me some concrete evidence other than her statement which is questionable and the silencer which is very questionable everything else you say is pure hearsay or Julie's words.Come up with something more tangible other than a total assassination on Jeremy Bamber's character Lets hear about Julie's character for a change from you.  Lets not forget Julie came out of this dreadful tragedy quite well!!!

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2013, 04:03:PM »
steve shame on Julie Mugford for not preventing Jeremy shooting defenceless young 6 year olds in the back of the head we all know she could not as Jeremy was not responsible for the murders at WHF give me some concrete evidence other than her statement which is questionable and the silencer which is very questionable everything else you say is pure hearsay or Julie's words.Come up with something more tangible other than a total assassination on Jeremy Bamber's character Lets hear about Julie's character for a change from you.  Lets not forget Julie came out of this dreadful tragedy quite well!!!







25 grand more than Jeremy did,Susan. Imagine losing your life on hearsay and conjecture.

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Re: Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2013, 04:18:PM »
I stumbled on the theory of catathymic crisis quite by accident after researching the cases of William Bradford Bishop and David Bain,but it does explain unerringly what might be going on in a seemingly calm outward exterior.http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02803681


Catathymic crisis arises from intolerable tension. Whilst I'm convinced that you trawl through books on psychology in order to lay accusations at Jeremy's feet I think you need to tke a long hard look at what had befallen Sheila during the last 18 weeks of her life and ask yourself, given her mental fragility, just how much more she could take.