Jeremy's mental state at time of both funerals:-

[Steve_uk]

They were his to do with as he pleased, they didn't belong to the relatives, they belonged to Jeremy!! AND if he had tried to sell pictures of Sheila to the Sun, there would have been evidence but once again, the claim comes evidence free!!

Accuse Michael Fielder of lying..he comes in a long list of people who must be acting similarly for Jeremy to be innocent. Speaking of acting didn't Brett tell Jeremy he was too happy and to bite on an onion for the cameras and to wear some pale make-up,as well as Jeremy's desire to record the funerals on Nevill's video recorder he pinched from the lounge at White House Farm,as well as Jeremy's desire to read all the newspapers as in the David Bain case.

[lookout]

Accuse Michael Fielder of lying..he comes in a long list of people who must be acting similarly for Jeremy to be innocent. Speaking of acting didn't Brett tell Jeremy he was too happy and to bite on an onion for the cameras and to wear some pale make-up,as well as Jeremy's desire to record the funerals on Nevill's video recorder he pinched from the lounge at White House Farm,as well as Jeremy's desire to read all the newspapers as in the David Bain case.

Steve,,if Jeremy hadn't have read the newspapers,,that would have been wrong too,,because folk would have been saying that he didn't want to be reminded " of his dirty deeds " Damned if he did,damned if he didn't.

[Steve_uk]

Steve,,if Jeremy hadn't have read the newspapers,,that would have been wrong too,,because folk would have been saying that he didn't want to be reminded " of his dirty deeds " Damned if he did,damned if he didn't.

That's possible lookout but was it necessary to buy them all and spread them out on the lounge carpet at Goldhanger..this just smacks of the control freak Jeremy had become similar to David Bain who both liked to see the consequences of their actions.

[Jane]

That's possible lookout but was it necessary to buy them all and spread them out on the lounge carpet at Goldhanger..this just smacks of the control freak Jeremy had become similar to David Bain who both liked to see the consequences of their actions.

I seem to recall that we ALL bought many, MANY more newspapers than usual. Those of us who don't inhabit your own lofty position of perfection have a morbid fascination of tragedies and this one was local. Nobody has yet said anything about how many newspapers were collected by RWB et al, but I'll bet it amounted to more than their usual publications.

[Steve_uk]

I seem to recall that we ALL bought many, MANY more newspapers than usual. Those of us who don't inhabit your own lofty position of perfection have a morbid fascination of tragedies and this one was local. Nobody has yet said anything about how many newspapers were collected by RWB et al, but I'll bet it amounted to more than their usual publications.

Wasn't it around this time that Jeremy reentered White House Farm by the very window he had used on the morning of the killings to destroy any possibility of Police gathering forensic evidence,when he sensed the net tightening in on him..

[lookout]

That's possible lookout but was it necessary to buy them all and spread them out on the lounge carpet at Goldhanger..this just smacks of the control freak Jeremy had become similar to David Bain who both liked to see the consequences of their actions.

Steve,,I should very much hope that Jeremy has kept references to each of those newspapers on account of them each telling their own versions of events.
It's not a case of liking or wanting to see the consequences of their actions,,it's studying to see if any of them have got the right story without elaborating and ending up like Chinese Whispers with a bit more added on. They all have a habit of jumping in feet first,regardless of whether it's the truth or not.

[Steve_uk]

Steve,,I should very much hope that Jeremy has kept references to each of those newspapers on account of them each telling their own versions of events.
It's not a case of liking or wanting to see the consequences of their actions,,it's studying to see if any of them have got the right story without elaborating and ending up like Chinese Whispers with a bit more added on. They all have a habit of jumping in feet first,regardless of whether it's the truth or not.

..or was it more to check whether the journalists' accounts tallied with what really had occurred that morning so Jeremy felt a sense of superiority if they got it wrong. After all as Jeremy told Liz Rimington during this period:"I'm the only one who knows what happened that night.."

[lookout]

..or was it more to check whether the journalists' accounts tallied with what really had occurred that morning so Jeremy felt a sense of superiority if they got it wrong. After all as Jeremy told Liz Rimington during this period:"I'm the only one who knows what happened that night.."

Oh dear,,he said,she said.Was anyone around as witness to all these things that Jeremy was supposed to have said.? With friends like that lot,you certainly don't need enemies.
Journalists don't always get it right either. The more gory the detail,the more newspapers they sell and the more money they get,,sod what impact it has on someones' life.

[Caroline R]

Accuse Michael Fielder of lying..he comes in a long list of people who must be acting similarly for Jeremy to be innocent. Speaking of acting didn't Brett tell Jeremy he was too happy and to bite on an onion for the cameras and to wear some pale make-up,as well as Jeremy's desire to record the funerals on Nevill's video recorder he pinched from the lounge at White House Farm,as well as Jeremy's desire to read all the newspapers as in the David Bain case.

Yeah because The Sun is reknowned for truth isn't it? David Bain was 'accuitted' on appeal. AS for the rest of it, Jeremy cant be responsible for what other people say! Were the funerals recorded, I have never seen that said before - was that from Wilkes or Powell? Why would he need to 'pinch' the recorder? If it was at WHF, it was his!! You talk about Jeremy as if he had no place at WHF - he might have been adopted but he was Neville and June Bamber's son and WHF was his home!!

[Steve_uk]

Yeah because The Sun is reknowned for truth isn't it? David Bain was 'accuitted' on appeal. AS for the rest of it, Jeremy cant be responsible for what other people say! Were the funerals recorded, I have never seen that said before - was that from Wilkes or Powell? Why would he need to 'pinch' the recorder? If it was at WHF, it was his!! You talk about Jeremy as if he had no place at WHF - he might have been adopted but he was Neville and June Bamber's son and WHF was his home!!

But he had moved out to Goldhanger..wasn't there similar discussions in the David Bain case. As for the funerals I have seen a video of Jeremy exiting through a lychgate with Julie at Tolleshunt D'Arcy but admittedly I'm having a hard time of locating that particular clip.

[lookout]

But he had moved out to Goldhanger..wasn't there similar discussions in the David Bain case. As for the funerals I have seen a video of Jeremy exiting through a lychgate with Julie at Tolleshunt D'Arcy but admittedly I'm having a hard time of locating that particular clip.

Jeremy moved out to Goldhanger most likely to suit the madam he was with at the time,,because of the strained friendship between her and June,,who couldn't stand her,and visits to WHF were becoming tedious to Julie,and probably dreaded to June.
The only thing that Julie would have been visualising would have been an easy life at Goldhanger,then WHF as " lady of the manor ". Her insecurity was such, that she actually thought that she was the only one for Jeremy,,and when that went belly-up,,out came the dirty washing.  Just as well he found out how nasty people could be if they didn't get their own way.

[Caroline R]

But he had moved out to Goldhanger..wasn't there similar discussions in the David Bain case. As for the funerals I have seen a video of Jeremy exiting through a lychgate with Julie at Tolleshunt D'Arcy but admittedly I'm having a hard time of locating that particular clip.

Eh? So because there is video footage it means that he organised for the funerals to be filmed? What does his moving to Goldhanger have to do with anything?? Just because he didn't live at WHF doesn't mean it's not his family home!!!!! It's where he grew up, it's the 'family' home as as the surviving member of that family, it was HIS home and all that contained in it - WAS HIS!! He could take what he liked, when he liked and do with it as he liked and no one had the right to stop him.

[Steve_uk]

Eh? So because there is video footage it means that he organised for the funerals to be filmed? What does his moving to Goldhanger have to do with anything?? Just because he didn't live at WHF doesn't mean it's not his family home!!!!! It's where he grew up, it's the 'family' home as as the surviving member of that family, it was HIS home and all that contained in it - WAS HIS!! He could take what he liked, when he liked and do with it as he liked and no one had the right to stop him.

After the conviction they did because he has disinherited himself through his crimes. I'm sure Petey will point us to the law on this point.

[Steve_uk]

Do we have any psychiatrists here who know anything about catathymic crisis?http://jameslbruno.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/an-open-letter-to-william-bradford.html

[lookout]

After the conviction they did because he has disinherited himself through his crimes. I'm sure Petey will point us to the law on this point.

It's correct that you relinquish everything if you've committed a crime such as murder,but-------------Jeremy has been wrongly convicted,along with the fact that he hasn't,and won't give up on his plea of innocence,,and to see justice done.
Apart from yourself,,others who see him as guilty are noteable by their absence. Strange that.