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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #210 on: June 15, 2013, 01:10:AM »
It's reasonable to assume that the police drivers went as fast as they could safely drive. Police evidence states that the car that arrived from Witham was being driven much faster than Jeremy's car when Jeremy was overtaken.

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #211 on: June 15, 2013, 09:59:AM »
It's reasonable to assume that the police drivers went as fast as they could safely drive. Police evidence states that the car that arrived from Witham was being driven much faster than Jeremy's car when Jeremy was overtaken.
If they were travelling very fast, then this questions their ability to calculate how fast Jeremy was going? Indeed he may even have pulled over to let the police car pass him, as do most people? I've always questioned that evidence as just "guess work" myself.

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #212 on: June 15, 2013, 10:04:AM »
It's reasonable to assume that the police drivers went as fast as they could safely drive. Police evidence states that the car that arrived from Witham was being driven much faster than Jeremy's car when Jeremy was overtaken.



As I'd already pointed out,,in 1984,Jeremy had already met Saxby due to an accident in which Jeremy was involved in,,so to have driven like a bat out of Hell wouldn't have been the done thing------again.
I don't have any information on the car accident,,but my guess is that Jeremy may have been speeding.

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #213 on: June 15, 2013, 10:12:AM »
If they were travelling very fast, then this questions their ability to calculate how fast Jeremy was going? Indeed he may even have pulled over to let the police car pass him, as do most people? I've always questioned that evidence as just "guess work" myself.
I have also questioned the relevance of how fast Jeremy Bamber may have been driving.  There are multiple reasons why he may have been driving slowly, the assumption that he should have driven like a bat out of hell to prove his concern is nonsensical as people in shock or fear tend to drive slowly due to natural self protection.
I agree Lugg, if the police were driving as fast as they usually do in such circumstances they wouldn't have the faintest clue what speed he was going. 
If he was driving very fast towards the airport now that would have been suspicious. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #214 on: June 15, 2013, 10:25:AM »
Maggie,,,I think he was keeping his nose clean in view of his accident the previous year. He may have got points on his licence from whatever happened. So he wouldn't have wanted to have been seen driving recklessly again---------in the dark--------along a windy road.

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #215 on: June 15, 2013, 10:35:AM »
Maggie,,,I think he was keeping his nose clean in view of his accident the previous year. He may have got points on his licence from whatever happened. So he wouldn't have wanted to have been seen driving recklessly again---------in the dark--------along a windy road.
There's loads of reasons imo lookout.  A combination of a few probably, quite likely one of them being your suggestion. 
I have been in a situation of driving five miles along country roads at 1am to get to someone very close to me in a dangerous situation and the police involved. 
My thoughts were....... must drive slowly, I want to get there in one piece.
I mustn't get stopped by the police for speeding that will complicate everything 
I mustn't have an accident as I need to get there as quickly as possible as safely as possible. 
It also has the effect almost like a car accident when everything slows down and a calmness comes over you. 
Adrenaline fuelled speeding doesn't come into it. imo
However this is just my experience therefore, also only a possibility imo.
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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #216 on: June 15, 2013, 11:43:AM »
There's loads of reasons imo lookout.  A combination of a few probably, quite likely one of them being your suggestion. 
I have been in a situation of driving five miles along country roads at 1am to get to someone very close to me in a dangerous situation and the police involved. 
My thoughts were....... must drive slowly, I want to get there in one piece.
I mustn't get stopped by the police for speeding that will complicate everything 
I mustn't have an accident as I need to get there as quickly as possible as safely as possible. 
It also has the effect almost like a car accident when everything slows down and a calmness comes over you. 
Adrenaline fuelled speeding doesn't come into it. imo
However this is just my experience therefore, also only a possibility imo.







Maggie,,there'd have been a thousand and one things going through his head.Firstly,,you've got to focus yourself after been wakened at an unearthly hour,,as he must have been dead beat after working 17 hours on the farm gathering in rape. Neville also would have been very tired that night too.
Then whilst driving,,you have to make sure that your mind/thoughts don't take over your driving,,as it's easy to lose concentration as you're aware. I thought it was dreadful that Jeremy wasn't given a lift.It would have been all the same if he'd had more " than a beer ",,what then.? A drink driving ban.?
I thought it was customary for the police to collect a person to take to the scene of a crime,,in case he/she was a suspect. After all,,he was the only one of the family who was not in the family home.
Did he by any chance have to drive himself back after the trauma.?

I think it was a bad move asking him to drive himself to the farmhouse,,because if the car was examined afterwards,,which it was,,how on earth would the police know if the car had been used prior to the murders.? 

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #217 on: June 15, 2013, 12:27:PM »
also it 330 am i could of been a bit tired.

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Re: Is this how it's going to work then?
« Reply #218 on: June 15, 2013, 08:50:PM »
If they were travelling very fast, then this questions their ability to calculate how fast Jeremy was going?
Indeed, but the police didn't calculate how fast Jeremy was going. The police evidence was that Jeremy was going considerably slower than they were (or words to that effect). They didn't even estimate their own speed.

. . . to have driven like a bat out of Hell wouldn't have been the done thing------again.
You seem to have misunderstood what I posted. I suggested the police went a lot faster than the speed assumed by a website. I assumed that Jeremy was travelling at a considerably lower speed, but not dawdling. I don't know the exact nature of Jeremy's car accident, but his car was a write-off.