Is this how it's going to work then?

[susan]

lookout I thought Mat's post to you was a tad condescending and patronizing which really surprised me as he is such a nice guy maybe he misread the meaning of your post.  Shall we forgive him

[nugnug]

It was when Jeremy was on hold after phoning the police that they eventually told him that a car was on its way after Nevill ( without an e ) had previously rang them.A patrol car had arrived at WHF minutes earlier than the one that Jeremy requested.
It's force of habit that I add an e to Nevill,because I have a cousin of the same name,,,with an e.

well if they did turn up before Jeremy call that would prove that nevil had phoned them as well

did you get this from one of Jeremy blogs.

[susan]

Hi nugnug  I agree I was always under the understanding two police cars were sent from different stations as if two phone calls had been received by different people.

[nugnug]

well jeremy dident phone 2 different police stations so that have to mean 2 phone calls from 2 different people

[susan]

nugnug exactly trying to prove it is another matter.

[nugnug]

though i suppose i does not necasrrly prove nevile called them.

one police could of phoned another police station.

though if that was true the police would have no reason not to admit to it.

[lookout]

though i suppose i does not necasrrly prove nevile called them.

one police could of phoned another police station.

though if that was true the police would have no reason not to admit to it.

Hi nugs,,if I can get this right,here goes-------Jeremy had rang Witham police station after Neville had rang him. There was no joy from Witham,so Jeremy was put through to Chelmsford ( after having been agitated waiting for a reply ) via radio link and told police there that his father had rang him, stating what his father told him,and how he'd tried to ring back his father but the line was engaged. During the time that the line was engaged would have been when Neville was phoning the police. Two cars were then sent to WHF,both from different directions, with one arriving minutes before the other.
Whilst phoning the police,Jeremy had said that Sheila went mad at anything and had done this before,,meaning that on occasion,Neville had rang Jeremy for assistance to help calm her down.

It's been said that Jeremy drove slowly to meet the officers at the farmhouse,,but from Goldhanger to WHF would have been pretty dark,and the winding roads would have made it dangerous to go at any speed. I can't imagine at that point that Jeremy would,or could have known how serious the situation really was.
If he'd sped to the farmhouse,that would have been wrong too,so he couldn't win. Anyway,,young men the age he was at the time,,don't exactly rush into anything anyway.
Jeremy had been involved in a car accident in 1984,as one of the officers knew him from then,,so another reason for Jeremy not driving like a bat out of Hell. The officer was PC Saxby,who was in car CA7.

However,,back to Nevilles' call,which was logged,but didn't appear some years later as it had been rolled into Jeremys' call. There were two separate calls made from two people.
Both Jeremy and his father could well have been trying to phone each other and that's the reason for the engaged tone.Nothing sinister going on at all.It just needs some thought of what could have happened.

[nugnug]

so if nevile made a call to the police that would mean Jeremy was telling the truth.

and if a police car was heading there before jeremys phone call that can only mean that Nevile must of phoned them.

[lookout]

so if nevile made a call to the police that would mean Jeremy was telling the truth.

and if a police was heading there before jeremys phone call that can only mean that Nevile must of phoned them.

That's how I see it,nugs.

[nugnug]

well someone else could of phoned them i suppose but i cant see who that would be.

[lookout]

well someone else could of phoned them i suppose but i cant see who that would be.

They could well have done,nugs,,but I see it as only involving the immediate family,,leaving Jeremy out of it. A " domestic " that went horribly wrong.

[killingeve]

Hi NugNug/Susan

Although I firmly believe in JB's innocence, I remain open-minded about the log/two police cars/NB's 2nd call.  Perhaps other posters can help me out here?

I certainly believe NB made the first call to JB.  RB states in his wit stat "he (NB) commented that if they were like the police at Witham they were no more good than Dad's Army"...

bottom of 1st stat, top of 2nd:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=513.0;attach=1651

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=513.0;attach=1652

The above is part of the reason I believe NB did not call the police initially.  Plus he/June were very private people as per CC's book:

Excerpt From Colin Caffell's Book

"One of the most striking things about that day, although not altogether surprising for me, was the fact that, the more I talked to June and Nevill's relations, the more I realised none of them actually knew anything had been seriously wrong with Bambs - not even June's sister Pam.  Many of them said that had they known, they would have been more than willing to help and share the burden.  Why hadn't I contacted them and told them all about it?  I couldn't believe what I was hearing and could only reply by saying that I didn't feel it had been my business to betray the Bamber's confidence.  They were very private people whose decisions I had to respect - whether right or wrong.  These people had no idea how much I'd need them as allies to convince June and Nevill of how strongly I felt Bamb's treatment should have been changed".

If NB called JB then I think it must have been prior to entering the kitchen at WHF for what was to be the last time 

The above also stacks up with JB's claim that NB was not the sort to get the authorities involved. 

[nugnug]

well there must of when the car was sent out.

[killingeve]

well there must of when the car was sent out.

Possibly but it may have been as a result of JB's initial call 

[nugnug]

well if theres a record of when jeremy made the call and when the cars was sent out it should be very simple to work out waether they were sent out before or after the call.