Main Bedroom

[Kaldin]

There's some kind of eiderdown on the floor next to the bed where the cartridges were allegedly found. Nobody mentioned that did they?

In fact, there seems to be an awful lot of bedclothes for August. Perhaps it was a particularly cold summer.

Anyway, the majority of the bullets were fired from one place in my opinion - towards the bed, and some of them were at Nevill allegedly, and yet he left no sign of being shot in that room. It's just nonsense.

You mean the white one visible in the photo of June?

Yes, it may have been cold - perhaps that's why Jeremy took two jumpers with him when he went to meet the police.

"Tuesday 6 August 1985, and the south Essex coast was cool for the time of year. Temperatures overnight dipped to 11 degrees and there were brief rain showers." from http://crimeheartsandcoronets.blogspot.com/2010/11/jeremy-bamber-guilty-as-charged.html

I see, thank you. I wonder if the quilt on the floor was usually on the bed.

[Kaldin]

I read somewhere that last number redial from upstairs phone showed a call to the police station?

I just want to revisit this post. According to PC Woodcock, he went up the back stairs into the upstairs office, then he went into some kind of store room and found a door which led to the bedrooms but the door was "secure". I presume that means it was locked and that he couldn't access the bedrooms that way.

There's no plan of the upstairs available which shows the layout of the upstairs office unfortunately, but I wonder if the office was habitually inaccessible from the rest of the upstairs, and if so, how was that achieved? By a key? By bolting the door? I presume it wasn't bolted from the office side or PC Woodcock could have just unbolted it.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179.0;attach=275;image

[Alex]

I read somewhere that last number redial from upstairs phone showed a call to the police station?

I just want to revisit this post. According to PC Woodcock, he went up the back stairs into the upstairs office, then he went into some kind of store room and found a door which led to the bedrooms but the door was "secure". I presume that means it was locked and that he couldn't access the bedrooms that way.

There's no plan of the upstairs available which shows the layout of the upstairs office unfortunately, but I wonder if the office was habitually inaccessible from the rest of the upstairs, and if so, how was that achieved? By a key? By bolting the door? I presume it wasn't bolted from the office side or PC Woodcock could have just unbolted it.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179.0;attach=275;image

I have read somewhere that this door was kept locked and the main upstairs could not be accessed by it.  I seem to recall reading that there was furniture placed in front of one door, but I don't recall whether it was this door or another.  However I could have sworn the subject has been covered somewhere on this forum - it's the usual problem of finding it again - I've had no luck.  May be it was ion sleuthing, but I hardly go on there now so I'm not sure that it was there.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

I believe that it was stated there was only one phone that HAD last number redial capability (and that was the upstairs one) - not sure if that was the one sent away for repair or not (but could find out)

Even so, the last number redial was tied to THAT handset, not the house line...
Essentially worthless.

[Hartley]

I read somewhere that last number redial from upstairs phone showed a call to the police station?

I just want to revisit this post. According to PC Woodcock, he went up the back stairs into the upstairs office, then he went into some kind of store room and found a door which led to the bedrooms but the door was "secure". I presume that means it was locked and that he couldn't access the bedrooms that way.

There's no plan of the upstairs available which shows the layout of the upstairs office unfortunately, but I wonder if the office was habitually inaccessible from the rest of the upstairs, and if so, how was that achieved? By a key? By bolting the door? I presume it wasn't bolted from the office side or PC Woodcock could have just unbolted it.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179.0;attach=275;image

The stair in the lobby near the rear yard door leads directly into the office; upstairs there is a door which leads into another room, then into a bathroom and then onto the main landing.

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

So where do the stairs in the kitchen next to the aga lead? I have been puzzled for a while as to whether the house has two or three sets of stairs.

[Hartley]

So where do the stairs in the kitchen next to the aga lead? I have been puzzled for a while as to whether the house has two or three sets of stairs.

It has three, the kitchen stairs come out in another room opposite the above mentioned bathroom.

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

So where do the stairs in the kitchen next to the aga lead? I have been puzzled for a while as to whether the house has two or three sets of stairs.

It has three, the kitchen stairs come out in another room opposite the above mentioned bathroom.

Thank you.

[Kaldin]

I read somewhere that last number redial from upstairs phone showed a call to the police station?

I just want to revisit this post. According to PC Woodcock, he went up the back stairs into the upstairs office, then he went into some kind of store room and found a door which led to the bedrooms but the door was "secure". I presume that means it was locked and that he couldn't access the bedrooms that way.

There's no plan of the upstairs available which shows the layout of the upstairs office unfortunately, but I wonder if the office was habitually inaccessible from the rest of the upstairs, and if so, how was that achieved? By a key? By bolting the door? I presume it wasn't bolted from the office side or PC Woodcock could have just unbolted it.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179.0;attach=275;image

I have read somewhere that this door was kept locked and the main upstairs could not be accessed by it.  I seem to recall reading that there was furniture placed in front of one door, but I don't recall whether it was this door or another.  However I could have sworn the subject has been covered somewhere on this forum - it's the usual problem of finding it again - I've had no luck.  May be it was ion sleuthing, but I hardly go on there now so I'm not sure that it was there.

Well that would explain why Nevill didn't use the phone in the upstairs office (if he did actually phone Jeremy of course)

[Kaldin]

I believe that it was stated there was only one phone that HAD last number redial capability (and that was the upstairs one) - not sure if that was the one sent away for repair or not (but could find out)

Even so, the last number redial was tied to THAT handset, not the house line...
Essentially worthless.

I thought it was a phone which was kept in the kitchen - a cordless one. It had apparently been sent away for repair.

From the appeal document:

There were normally four telephones at White House Farm (although there was only one telephone line). A cream old-fashioned finger-dial telephone kept in the main bedroom (the bedroom telephone), a blue digital telephone in the first floor office (the office telephone), a cream cordless telephone kept in the kitchen but used around and outside the house (the cordless telephone) and a fawn digital telephone also kept in the kitchen (the kitchen telephone). The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.

[Hartley]

I thought it was a phone which was kept in the kitchen - a cordless one. It had apparently been sent away for repair.

From the appeal document:

There were normally four telephones at White House Farm (although there was only one telephone line). A cream old-fashioned finger-dial telephone kept in the main bedroom (the bedroom telephone), a blue digital telephone in the first floor office (the office telephone), a cream cordless telephone kept in the kitchen but used around and outside the house (the cordless telephone) and a fawn digital telephone also kept in the kitchen (the kitchen telephone). The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.

That was my understanding also.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

Cheers chaps, I wasn't sure.

Phones, bodies, bullets, family, clues, accusers, bent coppers, it's all getting too much for me.

So far I've narrowed it down to 14 possible suspects, in any one of 11 rooms between the hours of 10:30 and 8:00am the following morning.

And something about a News Of The World reporter being paid to 'do the job' in exchange for 25K and some nude pictures of Sheila.

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

TBM you are like a breath of fresh air! 

[mike tesko]

I believe that it was stated there was only one phone that HAD last number redial capability (and that was the upstairs one) - not sure if that was the one sent away for repair or not (but could find out)

Even so, the last number redial was tied to THAT handset, not the house line...
Essentially worthless.

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Unless Ralph used it to call Jeremy, or the police?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

I believe that it was stated there was only one phone that HAD last number redial capability (and that was the upstairs one) - not sure if that was the one sent away for repair or not (but could find out)

Even so, the last number redial was tied to THAT handset, not the house line...
Essentially worthless.

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Unless Ralph used it to call Jeremy, or the police?

Quite right