Main Bedroom

[mike tesko]

Main Bedroom

[chelmsey]

nice wallpaper! is this room located at the front or the back of the house?

[shonapugs]

Bloody frightful wallpaper actually, Chelmsey! Does anyone else think (Mike, I know you don't) that Ralph's side of the bed, with the indentation in the pillow, looks like he had been lying there that night?

[shonapugs]

And what is the black mark hiding? Not June's body, or Sheila's, so what are we being "protected" from?

[mike tesko]

And what is the black mark hiding? Not June's body, or Sheila's, so what are we being "protected" from?

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Just Sheila's legs and feet, Do you think Peter Sutherst (Kodakman)  was able to identify blood on Sheila's feet? Could be the reason why that part of the photograph has been blacked out - I did not blank it out...

[chelmsey]

Bloody frightful wallpaper actually, Chelmsey! Does anyone else think (Mike, I know you don't) that Ralph's side of the bed, with the indentation in the pillow, looks like he had been lying there that night?

I was actually being sarcastic about the wallpaper lol.I think it looks like someone has been laying there.and someone with a sweaty head at that! please can you tell me if this bedroom is located at the front or back of the house?pleeease

[Reader]

It's at the front of the house.

[chelmsey]

Thankyou.I did think so but wasnt sure. Its just that one of the firearms officers stated that she thought she saw a rifle up against the window of this room.Am I correct in saying this? Only if this was the case, I am stumped as to why the firearms team cleared the back bedrooms first and took 15 full minutes to check this room.

[Kaldin]

Thankyou.I did think so but wasnt sure. Its just that one of the firearms officers stated that she thought she saw a rifle up against the window of this room.Am I correct in saying this? Only if this was the case, I am stumped as to why the firearms team cleared the back bedrooms first and took 15 full minutes to check this room.

WPC Jeapes said she saw a gun at a window, but it's still unclear to me where exactly she was standing. I can't access her statement now, but maybe someone else can find it.

The main bedroom is at the front of the house on the left. It's the window at the top on the left.



The house is sideways on to the road but the "front" is where the front door is.

[chelmsey]

Thanks for that.I went there once when my husband was doing some work there but to the back of the house.I have seen it from front view but felt it was a bit rude to stand and stare to work out what was what.

[Kaldin]

Re the shots in the main bedroom - I just can't see that Nevill was shot anywhere but in bed. Most of the cartridges are clustered around the side of the bed near the main door, and they weren't all associated with June, so surely Nevill must have been shot when he was in bed or standing up by the side of the bed.

Is there any way to check if there was blood on his side of the bed?

[Alex]

Re the shots in the main bedroom - I just can't see that Nevill was shot anywhere but in bed. Most of the cartridges are clustered around the side of the bed near the main door, and they weren't all associated with June, so surely Nevill must have been shot when he was in bed or standing up by the side of the bed.

Is there any way to check if there was blood on his side of the bed?

Well the official line is that there was no blood from Nevill in the bedroom, so I don't see how one could check.  We know there was blood on his side of the room - perhaps the patch below the bible was Sheila's.  It would seem strange for evidence of his blood or any blood on that side of the bed to have been withheld so personally I don't think there can have been much.  We know there was some on the wall of the main stairs, and on the doorjamb from the hall to the kitchen and of course in the kitchen itself.  Perhaps he was shot on his way downstaris while the perpetrator was standing in the bedroom.

[Kaldin]

Re the shots in the main bedroom - I just can't see that Nevill was shot anywhere but in bed. Most of the cartridges are clustered around the side of the bed near the main door, and they weren't all associated with June, so surely Nevill must have been shot when he was in bed or standing up by the side of the bed.

Is there any way to check if there was blood on his side of the bed?

Well the official line is that there was no blood from Nevill in the bedroom, so I don't see how one could check.  We know there was blood on his side of the room - perhaps the patch below the bible was Sheila's.  It would seem strange for evidence of his blood or any blood on that side of the bed to have been withheld so personally I don't think there can have been much.  We know there was some on the wall of the main stairs, and on the doorjamb from the hall to the kitchen and of course in the kitchen itself.  Perhaps he was shot on his way downstaris while the perpetrator was standing in the bedroom.

There were allegedly 8 cartridges clustered around the right hand side of the bed which suggests the killer was firing at people in the bed. There are another three nearer the door, two of which have been attributed to shots at June. There's another on the main stairs, which allegedly came from the kitchen on someone's shoe.

Take a look - it doesn't make sense. Am I to believe that Nevill was shot four times and didn't bleed at all?

Also, why are there two cartridges called DRH7?

[Kaldin]

There's some kind of eiderdown on the floor next to the bed where the cartridges were allegedly found. Nobody mentioned that did they?

In fact, there seems to be an awful lot of bedclothes for August. Perhaps it was a particularly cold summer.

Anyway, the majority of the bullets were fired from one place in my opinion - towards the bed, and some of them were at Nevill allegedly, and yet he left no sign of being shot in that room. It's just nonsense.

[Alex]

OK.  So may be blood-spotted carpet on Nevill's side of the bed is his after all.  Possibly he wasn't bleeding as much as June.  But why is the duvet not pulled down on his side of the bed, if that's where he was to begin with?  I can't imagine why he or indeed any killer would pull the duvet back up.