Vanishing bloodstained knickers key to solving movement of body...

[susan]

steve when a young lady has her "monthly" as it was known she accepted it as part of her life as it had been going on since she was about 11 or 12.  It did not stop her from carrying out her daily duties or even sport so June would not have cancelled her bible class because of it.  The reason I suspect was that the family had had a disagreement around the kitchen table whether to do with the children being fostered I cannot speculate. Quite often men leave the socks till last and pull them off and jump into bed it was quite common place but I suspect men have moved on and now place their socks in the laundry basket.   I will have to carry out a survey next time I am in Tesco's on this point

[packagebuilder]

What I personally find disgusting, was the manner with which they photographed former model, "Bambi", on the bed, knickerless, with her womanhood fully expose, hem of nightdress raised up to top of thighs, and then after police abused her body in this way by taking sordid photographs of Sheila on the bed exposed, they moved her body to the bedroom floor and lowered the hem of her nightdress to conceal her private area, the cunning bastards then planted the butt of the rifle against her crotch and adjusted her right hand on and around the gun, and introduced a false cover story that the raid team had actually found her body positioned like that on the bedroom floor, when all along pervert officers had been taking indecent photographs of her on the bed, when she was not yet dead - the fucking slimeballs, the lot of them...

I won't be surprised if the police used Ralph's back to put out their fags!

[Bridget]

That's quite possible susan but it may well have been June who for practical reasons helped out Sheila and cancelled her bible class because of it. I know this has been discussed before but isn't this often the case with fora such as this. I'm not sure Ralph would have just left his socks on the floor knowing June was in bed,a bed which does seem to dominate what is quite a small room considering the exterior of the Georgian building.

Sorry Steve, but as I know you've been told before, that is complete rubbish. It's a bit like you suggesting your dad cancelled his night down the pub to help you change your underpants.

[susan]

Hello Bridget  nice one I need a laugh

[Alias]

Sorry Steve, but as I know you've been told before, that is complete rubbish. It's a bit like you suggesting your dad cancelled his night down the pub to help you change your underpants.

Very good equation! I agree it is rubbish that June would have cancelled anything merely because of Sheila having her period - she was 28 and a mother of two for crying out loud!
It must have been something more serious that made her cancel.

[Steve_uk]

Sorry Steve, but as I know you've been told before, that is complete rubbish. It's a bit like you suggesting your dad cancelled his night down the pub to help you change your underpants.

It doesn't necessarily have to be rubbish. June was the one who visited Sheila in Maida Vale and knew the practicalities of her life and possibly had an intuition as to how ill she was. Ralph loved his daughter as evidenced by the hour-long telephone calls he endured in the evening but may not have been fully aware of the implications of her illness. Sheila was an ex-glamour model fastidious in her appearance and it's just not like someone of that ilk to leave underwear in a public place in full view,whereas June seemed to be the more practical and charitable individual,a problem-solver who might well have put the knickers to soak as Sheila went upstairs exhausted to bed after saying a few words to Auntie Pam on the telephone.

[Bridget]

Hello Bridget  nice one I need a laugh

Glad it made you laugh Susie but it irritates me every time I read it.

[Bridget]

It doesn't necessarily have to be rubbish. June was the one who visited Sheila in Maida Vale and knew the practicalities of her life and possibly had an intuition as to how ill she was. Ralph loved his daughter as evidenced by the hour-long telephone calls he endured in the evening but may not have been fully aware of the implications of her illness. Sheila was an ex-glamour model fastidious in her appearance and it's just not like someone of that ilk to leave underwear in a public place in full view,whereas June seemed to be the more practical and charitable individual,a problem-solver who might well have put the knickers to soak as Sheila went upstairs exhausted to bed after saying a few words to Auntie Pam on the telephone.

How long do you think it takes to fill a bucket with water and say "stick em in there"?

The most likely explanation for her cancelling her class was because she had house guests.

[Caroline R]

Sorry Steve, but as I know you've been told before, that is complete rubbish. It's a bit like you suggesting your dad cancelled his night down the pub to help you change your underpants.

Ha, ha, ha!! This made me laugh out loud!!  !!

[Jane]

steve when a young lady has her "monthly" as it was known she accepted it as part of her life as it had been going on since she was about 11 or 12.  It did not stop her from carrying out her daily duties or even sport so June would not have cancelled her bible class because of it.  The reason I suspect was that the family had had a disagreement around the kitchen table whether to do with the children being fostered I cannot speculate. Quite often men leave the socks till last and pull them off and jump into bed it was quite common place but I suspect men have moved on and now place their socks in the laundry basket.   I will have to carry out a survey next time I am in Tesco's on this point

Yes Susan, AND we could have a bath and wash our hair and go to school and ride our bikes/horses and go to parties and go swimming and play tennis and netball and rounders and at some period(scuse the pun) we ALL experienced "accidents"and the last thing most of us would have welcomed was an interfering mother. How would we have coped at boarding school?

[Steve_uk]

I'm glad you're making light of the incident because it suggests that Sheila was still in control of her faculties at that stage of the evening,whereas a young schizophrenic woman in the grip of psychosis would not have had a clue she was about to have her period and might have left stains somewhere in the house which might have been useful in tracking her movements for those fatal few hours.

[Caroline R]

How long do you think it takes to fill a bucket with water and say "stick em in there"?

The most likely explanation for her cancelling her class was because she had house guests.

I agree, but there was also some mention of a black eye and I'm not going to speculate how it occurred. However, given that June sounded very 'proper' in her manner, if she did have a black eye, I can imagine that would put her off going out to mix with others - who may make their own mind up about how it happened.

[Jane]

How long do you think it takes to fill a bucket with water and say "stick em in there"?

The most likely explanation for her cancelling her class was because she had house guests.

Which sounds more probable? June picks up the phone, says "So sorry, I won't be able to make it tonight, I have Sheila and the children here and I'm all behind. See you next week" OR "So sorry, I can't make it tonight, Sheila's period has started and she needs me to help out"

[Caroline R]

I'm glad you're making light of the incident because it suggests that Sheila was still in control of her faculties at that stage of the evening,whereas a young schizophrenic woman in the grip of psychosis would not have had a clue she was about to have her period and might have left stains somewhere in the house which might have been useful in tracking her movements for those fatal few hours.

And ................. 'might' not!!

[vidvic]

I agree, but there was also some mention of a black eye and I'm not going to speculate how it occurred. However, given that June sounded very 'proper' in her manner, if she did have a black eye, I can imagine that would put her off going out to mix with others - who may make their own mind up about how it happened.

Where exactly does this come from?