Super hero, Batman, backs Bamber freedom bid...

[Caroline R]

How many ordinary people, would tolerate police tampering and being disrepectful to the body of a loved one, or relative, or a friend, and want to do nothing about it? The families of the Hillsborough 96 had the right attitude and approach, police gambled on pulling the wool over everybodies eyes in that case, blaming drunken Liverpool supporters for doing things they did not do, and had't done - but they picked on the wrong crowd, and the wrong people - Bambers case is similar, they have blamed Jeremy Bamber for staging the body of Sheila in the bedroom, on the bedroom floor, when it was the police who had, and did restage it. In this case, (Bamber), police took photographs of the body they restaged, and presented them to the jury, as evidence of what they had found, and what Bamber had done, when all along it was a sham, a set up, where police had to restage the scene, because of something which occurred after the raid team entered the house, that ordinary members of the public, were never supposed to find out about...

Shame on Essex police, shame on the relatives, and thier supporters, for not wanting the truth to come out, about what really took place surrounding Sheila's death, inside the bedroom - I honestly do not know how any of you, and them, can sleep at night...

Mike, the pictures are already in the archives if people wish to refer to them. I agree that there is no need to repost the pictures in threads.

[Alias]

I am John Lamberton too. Remember, Stephanie? (I am "abs")
I am sure John is thrilled to be mixed up with a non-English person with a half poor English writing style.... 

[Lugg]

I am John Lamberton too. Remember, Stephanie? (I am "abs")
I am sure John is thrilled to be mixed up with a non-English person with a half poor English writing style.... 

Are you that girl from N.C.I.S. ?

[Lugg]

I believe your views would be different if you thought police had restaged the body of a loved one...

Possibly? Who knows how any of us would truly feel, except perhaps the relatives of those people?

[lookout]

And I can bet that Jeremys' biological father feels something deep down when and if he sees anything derogatory said or written by anyone. I know I would, as the years pass and you have time to think more deeply about certain things. His biological mother too,and half sisters,,being constantly reminded.
They're all human too.!

[vidvic]

I believe your views would be different if you thought police had restaged the body of a loved one...

So why did bamber object?

Wasn't it you, not the press, that released crime scene pics with the bodies in situ?

The picture of 'wet blood' aka camera flash, was released by GDS from your own pic with the camera flash wasn't it?

Lookout, I'm afraid you're mistaken about the press.

[maggie]

And I can bet that Jeremys' biological father feels something deep down when and if he sees anything derogatory said or written by anyone. I know I would, as the years pass and you have time to think more deeply about certain things. His biological mother too,and half sisters,,being constantly reminded.
They're all human too.!

I agree lookout, I do wonder how his natural mum feels inside...very difficult for her I'm sure and for his natural siblings, we really dont know f any of them have contact with him and its not our business. I do hope there's some contact between them.

[lookout]

I agree lookout, I do wonder how his natural mum feels inside...very difficult for her I'm sure and for his natural siblings, we really dont know f any of them have contact with him and its not our business. I do hope there's some contact between them.

Maggie,,did I read somewhere that one of the half-sisters had met Jeremy.?

[maggie]

Maggie,,did I read somewhere that one of the half-sisters had met Jeremy.?

Hi lookout, I don't know and it's not anyone's business imo but I believe Jeremy has a natural full sister and brother.

[petey]

On the other hand...

These images are the very evidence which prove police restaged Sheila Caffells body, in keeping with the findings of the original unedited versions of the 1988 Barrett, and 1993 COLP Reports, so this is not about being disrepectful to the deceased, or any relative, it is about being respectful to a persons right to receive a fair trial, and so that nobody can be blamed for doing something which someone else has done, and did - in this case, police restaged Sheila's body, and blamed Bamber for having done so, now that is a very wicked and evil thing to do. Rather than upset relatives, they should  be welcoming any insight into any wrong doings by the police in respect to mistreatment of a deceased relatives body, rather than be trying to suppress the truth about what the police have done, and did. Not only has justice got to be done to the memory of those who died, it has got to be seen to be done, and not just for the sake of the relatives or thier supporters, it has got to be seen to be done for everybody, because if you allow these evil corrupted police officers and officials to get away with doing, performing, and committing such attrocities as these, there can never be any justice for ordinary people...

Look at Hillsborough, how long it took to make officialdom take action, nobody complained or moaned when footage of the disaster was played and broadcast, and images posted in the papers of people dying and dead on the pitch, or of being crush, or whatever. You cannot let police get away with killing people, and covering things up, somebody has to make a stand, people need to know the truth. In Hillsborough, the relatives of the 96 deceased pressed for the truth, but in the Bamber case, the relatives and thier supporters do not want to know the truth, they are satisfied that in the end after a change (SC/688/85 to SC/786/85) in direction of the investigation, police finally arrived at the truth the relatives had been promoting right from the word go, which would and did open the floodgates for them to financial bliss...

No disrespect but please do not post in relation to Hillsborough, when you are posting such inaccuracies. Hundreds if not thousands of people complained with respect to footage and press coverage of Hillsborough. There are 96 recorded deaths in relation to the Hillsborough disaster, but many others died as a result of Hillsborough as they found it impossible to cope both with the disaster itself and the subsequent media coverage and were driven to suicide.

Indeed there were many court cases where relatives largely unsuccessfully tried to recover in relation to the awful images they witnessed in the media. This injustice was further heightened when they saw numerous police officers being signed off and allowed to retire on ill health grounds with full pensions, when many families and relatives of the victims received nothing as their loss was deemed to be too remote.

The relatives have been fantastic in their dedication and commitment, and they have been well supported by thousands of other people committed to allowing the general public to see the real truth that they have known for 24 years, not the police and media cover up version.

Pete (yes, that is my real name!) (LLB, LPC, trainee solicitor, solicitor)

JFT96

[susan]

Hi lookout

don't think Jeremy has met his sister or brother but think AA has met them both and said Jeremy does look like his sister but not his brother.  Think she met his birth Mother once they had I think a coffee/tea shop somewhere.

[lookout]

Hi lookout

don't think Jeremy has met his sister or brother but think AA has met them both and said Jeremy does look like his sister but not his brother.  Think she met his birth Mother once they had I think a coffee/tea shop somewhere.

Thanks Susan. I wasn't sure who'd met the sister,but knew it was somebody.

[Alias]

When you've had as many internet trolls attack you, as I have, you'd be confused also Abs..

To be honest I don't trust anyone who doesn't have the courage to use their real name.. but that's me..

I wonder what these people have to hide?

There's anonymity and there's fraudsters.. and of course 'witness protection.'   

All cool, Steph.

[mike tesko]

No disrespect but please do not post in relation to Hillsborough, when you are posting such inaccuracies. Hundreds if not thousands of people complained with respect to footage and press coverage of Hillsborough. There are 96 recorded deaths in relation to the Hillsborough disaster, but many others died as a result of Hillsborough as they found it impossible to cope both with the disaster itself and the subsequent media coverage and were driven to suicide.

Indeed there were many court cases where relatives largely unsuccessfully tried to recover in relation to the awful images they witnessed in the media. This injustice was further heightened when they saw numerous police officers being signed off and allowed to retire on ill health grounds with full pensions, when many families and relatives of the victims received nothing as their loss was deemed to be too remote.

The relatives have been fantastic in their dedication and commitment, and they have been well supported by thousands of other people committed to allowing the general public to see the real truth that they have known for 24 years, not the police and media cover up version.

Pete (yes, that is my real name!) (LLB, LPC, trainee solicitor, solicitor)

JFT96

With respect, I disagree with your view that media coverage of Hillsborough affected the outcome of the inquest verdicts, since my own view is that such coverage arguably worked in favour of the latest outcome to quash the 96 inquest verdicts, I personally do not care if you are a police officer, a solicitor, a barrister, a judge, a polititian, the Home Secretary, the lord chief justice, the DPP, the queen of England, or just an ordinary person from the street, I can say what I believe to be true on my own forum, providing I believe it to be true, it doesn't matter to me what you think about what I think, you have your views and I have mine, if you can't accept that, then your in the wrong place pal, you need to be visiting other sites where people might be frightened to speak thier minds. For your information, matey, I believe there are very strong similarities to Hillsborough and the Bamber case, since in both instances, police and other agencies of the State, sought to cover up the truth...

[mike tesko]

With respect, I disagree with your view that media coverage of Hillsborough affected the outcome of the inquest verdicts, since my own view is that such coverage arguably worked in favour of the latest outcome to quash the 96 inquest verdicts, I personally do not care if you are a police officer, a solicitor, a barrister, a judge, a polititian, the Home Secretary, the lord chief justice, the DPP, the queen of England, or just an ordinary person from the street, I can say what I believe to be true on my own forum, providing I believe it to be true, it doesn't matter to me what you think about what I think, you have your views and I have mine, if you can't accept that, then your in the wrong place pal, you need to be visiting other sites where people might be frightened to speak thier minds. For your information, matey, I believe there are very strong similarities to Hillsborough and the Bamber case, since in both instances, police and other agencies of the State sought to cover up the truth...

If you don't like what I say, don't read it, or go somewhere else, and get your entertainment elsewhere, or stay and participate, but you have a go at me, and I will certainly have a go at you, this is not a courthouse, its a forum that I happen to be the owner of, but which belongs to everyone...