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Offline mike tesko

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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2013, 12:15:PM »
Relatives removed firearms , accessories, and boxes of ammunition from gun cupboard on 10 th August 1985, yet it was all still there in the gun cupboard on 11th September 1985, when DC Oakey went to whf and was handes these from the gun cupboard by Ann Eaton...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2013, 12:30:PM »
So in 2003/2004 Mke sees the photograph left by Ewen/Assistant in his office/conference room, after which mike phones/writes to jeremy and tells him, Ewen is sacked and mike wasn't involved in the transfer of the files......with me so far?

Lets put it this way...

Jeremy has the letter I wrote to him informing him that I had seen a photograph of Sheila on the bed, dated the date I went to see Ewen in his office, Jeremy knows I would not make up something like that, with a view of causing friction between himself and Ewen, because I got on very well with both of them...

I am not and never have been privy to what Jeremy wrote to Ewen about after he received my letter, I only found out that Ewen had been sacked because Jeremy said that Ewen had been keeping things from him, and that he (Ewen) did not have his (Jeremy's) best interests at heart...

Next thing I knew, Jeremy had appointed GDS to represent him...

Just to be specific, it was after Jeremy sacked Ewen Smith, and the appointment of GDS, that there was some problem about how to get all of Jeremy's file from Ewen Smiths offices in Birmingham, to the offices of GDS in London? Ewen contacted GDS and recommended that I be the one to pick up the file from Birmingham and take it all to London, but GDS disagreed for some reason I think because it never got done by me...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2013, 12:42:PM »
Sometime afterwards Mike goes to GDS office in london and makes copies of some of the photos but not the one of Sheila on the bed....Mike is still friends with Bamber as of 2004....

No, because I had permission from GDS, (and Jeremy) through his son Michael, who was instructed by him - GDS was away in  Rome at the time I took pictures of the photographs in his London Office. You will appreciate that by this time, Jeremy was hoping that the photo of Sheila on the bed was still available and myself and another of his supporters went to London to see if it was still amongst those made available to GDS, with a view to photographing it so that Jeremy had a copy that he could use to help prove his innocence? Obviously, although there were many shocking images taken from the crime scene, and at the mortuary, the one of Sheila on the bed was not amongst them.
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2013, 12:47:PM »
Vidvic , it's a pity you are not prepared to go into such detail's with your friends over the finding and handing over times of the silencer/moderator IMO !!

Lets see you go into such detail , or will it be that old chestnut again ,' it was a long time ago to remember ' ?

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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2013, 12:56:PM »
Sep 27th 2011 Mike is prepared to send Jeremy a copy of the photograph which Jeremy hoped to get from another source......

Yes, certainly...

(1) - Jeremy has not requested that he needs me to make one, he was hoping that he could get his hands on a copy of the said photograph, but I am still prepared to do it...
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2013, 02:39:PM »
On 28th November 2004 Mike sends a most curious email to Andrew Hunter MP, via Angela Bladesmoore. In it he contradicts his story as told previously on the forum....

In the email to Hunter, the visit where he sees the photo is November 2003, but is written as if Ewen wasn't there, just an assistant, but now there is a 2nd visit and the sequence of events is altered....

Mike sees the photograph in the November visit but doesn't have chance to speak with Ewen about it, then....

"The next time I visited Glaisyers sollicitors I mentioned the aforementioned photograph which I had seen to Ewen Smith and raised my concerns that I thought Sheila's body had been found on the bedroom floor...."

Ewen Smith then explained about his chat with Doctor Craig on this 2nd Visit....

"I should also say that on this occasion when I visited Ewen Smith and raised these matters that although I mentioned to him that I had seen the photograph of Sheila laid on top of the bed with no panties on, that this photo was missing when we went to get the photographs for us to look at again."

"I got the impression that it had been removed from the bundles because I was not supposed to have seen it."


Also in this letter to Hunter, the source of the photo is now the CPS and not Essex Police.
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2013, 03:01:PM »
Oct 2011 - We're back to 2004 again....

The truth of the matter is that I have seen the batches of withheld photographs, that were part of a top secret album that was sent to Ewen Smith by Essex police at the beginning of 2004. Not only did I see the body of Sheila on the bed, as previously described, but I also saw photographs of injuries and marks in Sheila`s, Ralphs and June`s bodies...

Some weeks later, again in 2004, I went to offices in London, by appointment with GDS, and viewed albums of photographs that had been handed over to GDS by Ewen Smith. Present on this occasion was GDS 's son Michael, and a friend of Jeremys who I do not wish to name. The purpose of the visit was to view the albums of photographs, with the intention of reporting to GDS what we found, and also acting on instruction from Jeremy, for us to take copies of any crucial photographs, like those I had seen in Ewens office previously...
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2013, 03:08:PM »
Dec 2011 - Photo of Sheila on the bed was taken whilst she was still alive...

The photographs of Sheila on the bed, were taken at a time when she was still alive on the bed, she could not have been dead, hence she only had one shot to her neck by that stage. Sheila may have been assumed to be dead, but she was not...

Dr Craig made an error in pronouncing her as being dead at the scene without examining her to check for vital signs of life...

Ambulance crews in attendance at the scene, were not called forward into the farmhouse to check the bodies for signs of life, but were sent away from the scene, despite Sheila still being alive on the bed in the bedroom with her only having been shot once by that stage...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2013, 03:13:PM »
Vic, I think everyone has read this stuff before, I myself am a little 'confused' as to the point of your thread?

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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2013, 03:15:PM »
On November 3rd 2011 - Mike met up with 'Z'.....

I am gobsmacked by what I have been told today, and after being shown three Photographs which I had not seen before. - I am flabbergasted...
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2013, 03:18:PM »
Ann Eaton wrote down "David told me he had got something up his sleeve", after Jeremy was initially arrested at the begginning of September - it had someyhimg to do with the dodggy silencer, and his visit to whf wiyh police on 12th September 1985...
Mike could you link this to where Ann Eaton wrote this down please? I can't seem to find it.

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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2013, 03:23:PM »
Vidvic , it's a pity you are not prepared to go into such detail's with your friends over the finding and handing over times of the silencer/moderator IMO !!

Lets see you go into such detail , or will it be that old chestnut again ,' it was a long time ago to remember ' ?

Vic, I think this is a fair point.  ::)

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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2013, 03:25:PM »
Is it possible that AE's original wit stat can be made available please?  Unless it is and I can't find it?  I believe our competitors have one and it would be useful to have it here.  Thank you.


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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2013, 03:35:PM »
A breakthrough......'Z' shows mike photograph with one wound......

The lower one, with what I believe to be a silencers mark around it, one under chin is missing in the picture (Z) showed me this afternoon. I couldn't believe it when (Z) showed it to me, there was just the lower neck wound, the one under the chin was inflicted after this photograph was taken (this is what (Z) told me today)...

But hands in photo that was in Ewen's office to the CCRC so was presumably able to copy the original, stolen by Mike?

Informant included a copy of the photograph I had seen in Ewens office of Sheila on the bed with no blood coming from the sides of her mouth, reminding Ewen that I was at his office when I saw this photograph of Sheila on the bed, and didn't he out to come ought and tell the truth about the existence of this picture, and make a public statement about whether I (me) have been telling the truth about seeing this picture in his Birmingham office, or not?
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2013, 03:35:PM »
Is it possible that AE's original wit stat can be made available please?  Unless it is and I can't find it?  I believe our competitors have one and it would be useful to have it here.  Thank you.

Everything they have is copied from here.