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Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« on: February 27, 2011, 02:26:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 02:30:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

Here you go.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225.0;attach=546;image

I've just posted a link because if I embed it, it's huge!

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 02:37:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

Here you go.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225.0;attach=546;image

I've just posted a link because if I embed it, it's huge!

Kaldin

Thank you................... very interesting.

Are these accepted as being true?

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 02:42:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

Here you go.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225.0;attach=546;image

I've just posted a link because if I embed it, it's huge!

Kaldin

Thank you................... very interesting.

Are these accepted as being true?
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Possibility that four bullet cases, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4 added to schedule at some later date, to accommodate claim, that Ralph Bamber, was hot four ti mes in the bedroom...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 02:44:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

Here you go.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225.0;attach=546;image

I've just posted a link because if I embed it, it's huge!

Kaldin

Thank you................... very interesting.

Are these accepted as being true?
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Possibility that four bullet cases, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4 added to schedule at some later date, to accommodate claim, that Ralph Bamber, was hot four ti mes in the bedroom...

DRH/1 and DRH/2 are attributed to Sheila????

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 02:46:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

Here you go.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225.0;attach=546;image

I've just posted a link because if I embed it, it's huge!

Kaldin

Thank you................... very interesting.

Are these accepted as being true?
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Possibility that four bullet cases, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4 added to schedule at some later date, to accommodate claim, that Ralph Bamber, was hot four ti mes in the bedroom...

DRH/1 and DRH/2 are attributed to Sheila????
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Yes, I know - but how does anyone really know exactly whereabouts in the bedroom Sheila was shot, and killed?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 02:48:PM »
Is there a schematic diagram of where the positions of the spent bullet cases were in the bedroom where both Sheila and June Bamber died?

If so, please can this be posted on this thread?

Here you go.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225.0;attach=546;image

I've just posted a link because if I embed it, it's huge!

Kaldin

Thank you................... very interesting.

Are these accepted as being true?
--------------------------------

Possibility that four bullet cases, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4 added to schedule at some later date, to accommodate claim, that Ralph Bamber, was hot four ti mes in the bedroom...

DRH/1 and DRH/2 are attributed to Sheila????
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Yes, I know - but how does anyone really know exactly whereabouts in the bedroom Sheila was shot, and killed?

If they are not attributed to Sheila......where are the bullet cases relating to Sheila's wounds?

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 02:53:PM »
What I find interesting is where the other bullet cases are - they're clustered around the bed on the right hand side, on the bed itself, or near the dressing table. If four of them were fired at Nevill, where was he at the time?

There's also that one on the stairs which doesn't get mentioned a lot.

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 02:56:PM »
Re Mike's post - 'Yes, I know - but how does anyone really know exactly whereabouts in the bedroom Sheila was shot, and killed?[/b]'

If Sheila commited suicide, as would make Jeremy innocent, then it makes sense these would be the offending cases.

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 03:02:PM »
What I find interesting is where the other bullet cases are - they're clustered around the bed on the right hand side, on the bed itself, or near the dressing table. If four of them were fired at Nevill, where was he at the time?

There's also that one on the stairs which doesn't get mentioned a lot.
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Essex Police, attempt to explain this bullet case, away, that was found on the stairs by suggesting that it was carried on the footwear of police officers who entered the farmhouse, and deposited there on the stairs, from its original position in the kitchen...
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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 03:05:PM »
OK so lets assume the diagram, as posted by Kaldin, is a true and accurate representation of where the cases lay on the morning of the shootings (bar the case on the stairs).

Having viewed the pictures of where Sheila lay and the pattern of bleeding from both the wounds in her neck it appears to me the two shots occurred within a short time of each other (a couple / few seconds). This is because there is a common pattern in the flow of blood which would be influenced by gravity.

Is if a fair interpretation that both wounds occurred within a short period of time?

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 03:15:PM »
OK so lets assume the diagram, as posted by Kaldin, is a true and accurate representation of where the cases lay on the morning of the shootings (bar the case on the stairs).

Having viewed the pictures of where Sheila lay and the pattern of bleeding from both the wounds in her neck it appears to me the two shots occurred within a short time of each other (a couple / few seconds). This is because there is a common pattern in the flow of blood which would be influenced by gravity.

Is if a fair interpretation that both wounds occurred within a short period of time?

I think it is, but I'm sure Mike will disagree.

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2011, 03:17:PM »
What I find interesting is where the other bullet cases are - they're clustered around the bed on the right hand side, on the bed itself, or near the dressing table. If four of them were fired at Nevill, where was he at the time?

There's also that one on the stairs which doesn't get mentioned a lot.
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Essex Police, attempt to explain this bullet case, away, that was found on the stairs by suggesting that it was carried on the footwear of police officers who entered the farmhouse, and deposited there on the stairs, from its original position in the kitchen...

Did they? Did they mean that one of the three bullet cases from the kitchen ended up on the main stairs or were there were 26 bullet cases?

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2011, 03:20:PM »
OK so lets assume the diagram, as posted by Kaldin, is a true and accurate representation of where the cases lay on the morning of the shootings (bar the case on the stairs).

Having viewed the pictures of where Sheila lay and the pattern of bleeding from both the wounds in her neck it appears to me the two shots occurred within a short time of each other (a couple / few seconds). This is because there is a common pattern in the flow of blood which would be influenced by gravity.

Is if a fair interpretation that both wounds occurred within a short period of time?

I think it is, but I'm sure Mike will disagree.

I would like to know what Mike thinks in relation to 'Is it a fair interpretation that both wounds to Sheila occured within a short period of time given the above?

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Re: Spent bullet cases in the bedroom
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 03:29:PM »
OK so lets assume the diagram, as posted by Kaldin, is a true and accurate representation of where the cases lay on the morning of the shootings (bar the case on the stairs).

Having viewed the pictures of where Sheila lay and the pattern of bleeding from both the wounds in her neck it appears to me the two shots occurred within a short time of each other (a couple / few seconds). This is because there is a common pattern in the flow of blood which would be influenced by gravity.

Is if a fair interpretation that both wounds occurred within a short period of time?
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I beg to differ about blood running and leaking from both wounds - I think there was blood leaking from only one of the wounds, and that as a result of Sheila's body, and head being repositioned, the upper wound came to rest upon the lower wound, and blood which is shown, or which appears to be running from the lower entry wound, is in fact blood that was running and leaking from the upper wound, before the position of the victims head was adjusted into a different position...

If you look close enough, you can see that there is no vblood running from the lower wound at all, only the upper wound...

Blood from the lower wound, ran in a completely different direction - which you can see if you care to take the time and trouble to notice...

In my opinion...
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