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Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« on: February 27, 2011, 12:17:PM »
Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985

A great deal has been written and speculated upon, about whether or not Essex police did know about the existence of a silencer (sound moderator) from as early as, 9th August 1985? Now, see the evidence for yourself - DS "Stan" Jones, talks to COLP, about the events from 7th, 8th and 9th August 1985, during which the police spoke to Jeremy about the silencer, on and by evening of 9th August 1985, at 7:30pm, and that this was before the alleged date, that the relatives allegedly found the silencer, in the gun cupboard in the den, on the following day...

DS "Stan" Jones, and DCI "Taff" Jones, knew about the existence of a silencer at the scene, on the day before the relatives allegedly found a silencer, in the gun cupboard, on 10th August 1985...

How could Essex police have known about the silencer (9th August 1985), the day before the relatives allegedly found it (10th August 1985), at the scene?

Here are the notes recorded in DS "Stan" Jones, notebook, and the details of what he discussed with COLP as part of their 1991, investigation into the handling of the case:-

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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 12:25:PM »
Sorry for delay in posting evidence about this matter, please bear with me...
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 12:32:PM »
Can you imagine the impact, if it could be shown that Essex police, in particular, DCI "Taff" Jones, and DS "Stan" Jones, both knew about the silencer, the day before the relatives allegedly found it in the gun cupboard (in Den) at whf, on the following day (10th August 1985)?

« Last Edit: February 27, 2011, 12:41:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 12:50:PM »
FACT is, that DS "Stan" Jones, took possession of four exhibits from the scene, on 7th August 1985, bearing the exhibit references, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4 - now what I would like to know, is what item was exhibit SBJ/1 that DS "Stan" Jones, removed from the scene on 7th August 1985?

Was this a silencer (SBJ/1)?

If it was a silencer, and he recovered it from the downstairs toilet / shower room, to whom did this silencer belong to?
« Last Edit: February 27, 2011, 03:57:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 01:12:PM »
Here is the relevant extract from the interview with COLP, by DS "Stan" Jones, referring to events of evening (7:30pm) 9th August 1985:-

I will be posting a fuller version of his entire interview, by COLP, 1991,  in due course...

« Last Edit: February 27, 2011, 01:41:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 01:21:PM »
What I want to know, and I am sure everyone else would like to know, is how could Essex police know about a silencer, one day before the alleged find of it at the scene by the relatives?

More importantly, how do exhibits, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 ande SBJ/4, fit in with what we now know?

Did DS "Stan" Jones take possession of control of a silencer (SBJ/1) at the scene on 7th August 1985?

I think he did...
« Last Edit: February 27, 2011, 02:01:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 01:22:PM »
Not only do I think that DS "Stan" Jones, did take possession of a silencer (SBJ/1) from the scene on 7th August 1985, I can prove it...
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 01:28:PM »
According to the evidence given by DS Davidson, to the COLP investigators, 1991 / 1992, he stated that he did not have any direct involvement with the silencer, stating that that was the Province of Di COOK (SOC), but he lied about that fact...

He lied about his involvement with these different silencers, because if he told the truth, it would have become crystal clear that police had deliberately falsified the account of these different silencer's, which found their way into the possession of the police, at different stages of the investigation, as being one and the same silencer (when of course, they could not possibly have been the same)...

I can post evidence to prove that DS Davidson, lied and misled the COLP investigation, relating to this matter...
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 01:31:PM »
DCI "Taff" Jones, and DS "Stan" Jones, knew about a silencer at and by 7:30pm, on 9th August 1985 - FACT, not speculation, not a theory, not anyones imagination - proven fact, but how could they have known about a silencer, which was not yet found by the relatives, until 11th September 1985, or as the case may be, by 10th August 1985?
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 01:39:PM »
At what stage, did DS "Stan" Jones, take possession of exhibits, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, from the scene at whf?

How does he think he is going to get away with this?

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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 01:43:PM »
So, the record shows that not only did Essex police know about a silencer by 7:30pm, on the evening of 9th August 1985, but that DS "Stan" Jones, took possession of exhibit, SBJ/1, from the scene, on 7th August 1985, and by 12th August 1985, he was taking possession of a different silencer (DB/1) from Peter Eaton...

I am particularly interested in this second silencer (DB/1), which found its way into police possession by the evening of 12th August 1985...

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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 01:47:PM »
Yes, that is interesting. It's also interesting that Ann Eaton was given the keys to the farm and not Jeremy - I don't understand that. She seemed to be everywhere. What was she doing at Jeremy's house on 9th August if she thought he was a killer? She went to the farm a few times didn't she? Would you do that if you thought that a killer was at large?

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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2011, 01:56:PM »
I am also very interested, in discovering which of these two different identical looking Parker hale silencers, was examined for fingerprints, by oblique light test, on 15th August 1985, and whether or not, this was the same silencer, (SBJ/1) or a different one, (DB/1), which was examined for fingerprints, by super glue treatment, on the 23rd August 1985?

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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2011, 02:05:PM »
I am also very interested, in finding out, which of these two different, identical looking Parker Hale silencers, (SBJ/1 and DB/1) was dismantled by DI Cook (SOC) on 29th August 1985, rebuilt, and screwed onto the end of the bloodstained Bamber rifle, before both were re-submitted to the Lab' for examination on 30th August 1985, inside which was found the crucial flake of blood, that produced the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1)?
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Re: Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 02:09:PM »
I am also very interested, in finding out, which of these two different, identical looking Parker Hale silencers, (SBJ/1 and DB/1) was dismantled by DI Cook (SOC) on 29th August 1985, rebuilt, and screwed onto the end of the bloodstained Bamber rifle, before both were re-submitted to the Lab' for examination on 30th August 1985, inside which was found the crucial flake of blood, that produced the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1)?

I think I missed the bit about him dismantling it. Is there a document to show that?