How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?

[Adam]

What did Julie do between approaching the police and the verdict ?

It was a year long period. Could she continue to work and study as before. Or did she have to put her (second) degree and job on hold ?

No doubt the whole thing was very stressful for her. And for the rest of her family.

The Bambers were not Julies relatives.

The NOTW offered her 25k. Good luck with it Julie.

[Mr. Gee]

What did Julie do between approaching the police and the verdict ?

It was a year long period. Could she continue to work and study as before. Or did she have to put her (second) degree and job on hold ?

No doubt the whole thing was very stressful for her. And for the rest of her family.

The Bambers were not Julies relatives.

The NOTW offered her 25k. Good luck with it Julie.

But she was still a liar.

[lookout]

The school didn't want her near because of her involvement with a " murderer " ! Quite right too don't you think.?

[Alias]

What did Julie do between approaching the police and the verdict ?

It was a year long period. Could she continue to work and study as before. Or did she have to put her (second) degree and job on hold ?

No doubt the whole thing was very stressful for her. And for the rest of her family.

The Bambers were not Julies relatives.

The NOTW offered her 25k. Good luck with it Julie.

Gosh, sometimes I wonder if you have any feelings at all!

[Jane]

But can you really blame her April when she has a husband and children to consider,let alone her work colleagues? Of course she must reproach herself for her dilatory behaviour 16 years previously and what goes on behind closed doors we will never know. Can you really expect a 21 year-old to stand up to the London press,when all they are interested in is any sensationalist aspect of the story,and I'm sure some of the more unscrupulous hacks equated the loss of lives in this case with the more prurient aspect of Julie and Jeremy's relationship.

Steve, your post certainly made me think. I guess in her position, I'd have moved heaven and earth to prevent my children from finding out what I'd done. I like to think I'd have told my husband. In my experience, relationships formed on lies tend to flounder.

I do appreciate that she was only 21 but there was more than a touch of Diana about her in that she often appeared to love the camera. It WAS felt that sometimes she was playing up to the press and at such times it seemed that the murders might not have happened. I think what REALLY sealed her fate with the public were THOSE poses, in which she appeared to be swept away by her own celebrity and possibly thinking she could give up teaching and go into glamour modelling. Pictures were part of the deal, OK, but did they HAVE to be semi-nude, soft porn?

[Steve_uk]

The school didn't want her near because of her involvement with a " murderer " ! Quite right too don't you think.?

But there is far too much "guilt by association",whether it is Julie or Prince Andrew. In the end the Inner London Education Authority did find her another school,where she taught for a further two years. Her conduct since the unfortunate photographs has anyway been exemplary and it would have been churlish to hound her out of employment on the guilt by association basis.

[Alias]

But there is far too much "guilt by association",whether it is Julie or Prince Andrew. In the end the Inner London Education Authority did find her another school,where she taught for a further two years. Her conduct since the unfortunate photographs has anyway been exemplary and it would have been churlish to hound her out of employment on the guilt by association basis.

She has clearly demonstrated that she knew (or says she knew) perfectly well that Jeremy was going to kill his family. She chose to just let it happen.
Not a minor thing - insane in fact.

[Steve_uk]

She has clearly demonstrated that she knew (or says she knew) perfectly well that Jeremy was going to kill his family. She chose to just let it happen.
Not a minor thing - insane in fact.

No:after the second telephone call she said she knew that Jeremy was telling her that he had killed his family.

[Steve_uk]

However I'm perfectly prepared to admit that after call 1 (the tonight's the night call),Julie's reticence may have been interpreted by Jeremy as a green light to go ahead with his plan.

[Adam]

The other thing Julie had to consider before deciding to tell loads of serious lies about Bamber, was her own family. It would be a very stressful time for them as well. Especially if she got found out.

But love god Bamber had apparently jilted her. She was not going to wilt.

[lookout]

 Because Julie " knew " that the murders had been " arranged ",and being friendly with Sheila,why didn't she warn Sheila so that they'd BOTH been prepared to have torn Jeremy to shreds ? Sheila would also have told her father.
I really,really cannot understand why this " THREAT " wasn't broadcast,and this is why I say that Jeremy is innocent.
Julie was NOT a person to have kept anything to herself,as has been proved, so anyone with the thought of children being involved because of Jeremys' so-called " chain-reaction " of greed ( beneficiaries ),WOULD have stopped that murder in its tracks.
Why didn't Julie tell Neville ? Strange how she had believed everything after the event !
Why didn't BW and RWB go straight to the police after they were purported to have heard Jeremy say that " he could kill his parents ?". Again---------why have waited until it was too late ?
If these " threats " had been reported to the police beforehand,then Jeremy would then have been roped in for questioning,as they were SERIOUS threats.
The first thing anyone does is go to the police,even if it's unfounded.
I'm damn sure if I heard tell from someone that they could kill someone,I'd report it asap.

[Jane]

However I'm perfectly prepared to admit that after call 1 (the tonight's the night call),Julie's reticence may have been interpreted by Jeremy as a green light to go ahead with his plan.

Steve, have you considered that Julie was party -by association- to Jeremy's plan and went along with it because she assumed they'd be married. On discovering that marriage isn't on the cards, she tells just enough of the story to incense her friend, who goes to the police. Julie then gets her own story in, obviously leaving out her full involvement. Jeremy can't tell the police how involved Julie is without admitting his own guilt, something he's always denied and Julie can't reveal all she knows because it COULD upset her new life. COULD it be that each is holding the other to ransom?

[Alias]

Steve, have you considered that Julie was party -by association- to Jeremy's plan and went along with it because she assumed they'd be married. On discovering that marriage isn't on the cards, she tells just enough of the story to incense her friend, who goes to the police. Julie then gets her own story in, obviously leaving out her full involvement. Jeremy can't tell the police how involved Julie is without admitting his own guilt, something he's always denied and Julie can't reveal all she knows because it COULD upset her new life. COULD it be that each is holding the other to ransom?

I have thought about that - especially after reading a letter Jeremy wrote Julie after the verdict (don´t remember how long after, could be years). It came back unopened.
What he wrote - and din´t write - gave me an uneasy feeling.

[Jane]

The other thing Julie had to consider before deciding to tell loads of serious lies about Bamber, was her own family. It would be a very stressful time for them as well. Especially if she got found out.

But love god Bamber had apparently jilted her. She was not going to wilt.

You think a girl who is prepared to pose for the NOTW in the way she did was remotely concerned about what it would do to her family?

[Adam]

You think a girl who is prepared to pose for the NOTW in the way she did was remotely concerned about what it would do to her family?

So now she does not care about her family.

Well she approached the police a year earlier.

The NOTW approached her during the trial after getting inside knowledge that Bamber was guilty.

So yes, she would have considered a lot before deciding to live a big and serious lie in 1985.