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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2015, 10:08:PM »
She said that after she met the appellant, it quickly became obvious to her that the appellant disliked his family. He resented his parents whom he claimed, "tried to run his life" and he said he did not get on with Sheila Caffell. He was angry that she lived in an expensive flat in Maida Vale, which was maintained by his parents. Between July and October 1984, he said that his parents were getting him down and he said that he wished "he could get rid of them all". In evidence Miss Mugford said this included his sister and children because "if he was going to get rid of them it would have to be all of them". The appellant explained to her that his "father was getting old, his mother was mad … Sheila was mad as well … and in respect of the way the twins had been brought up, … they were emotionally disturbed and unbalanced". The appellant also told Julie Mugford he had seen copies of his parents' wills.

I can't find the recent comments someone alluded to.

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2015, 10:10:PM »
Strings were pulled you can bet on it. Strings by influential people.


It makes you wonder!!!  ;D

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2015, 10:12:PM »
Hi Patti thank you so much for that now I can keep up ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2015, 10:35:PM »
 Just been skimming through the " Compilation of JM's statements " I can't believe some of what she said. It's really forced if you're adept to reading between the lines.

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2015, 10:42:PM »
I am extremely surprised that this woman Julie Smerchanski (nee Mugford) was allowed to have a 25 year career in elementary education, after her complicity with mass killer Jeremy Bamber.

To cut a very long story short, she, by her own admition http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2002/2912.html (94-115):

1. Knew of Bamber's desire to murder his entire family, many months' prior, yet did nothing, and continued the relationship.
2. Was contacted during the night of the crime by Bamber to let her know everything was going to plan, yet did nothing.
3. Continued the relationship with Bamber for over a month after the killings, during which time he repeatedly admitted the killings to her and she gave a false account to police of her knowledge.
4. In effect let the police believe it was Jeremy Bamber's sister who had committed the 5 killings.
5. Only went to the police after she discovered he was having an affair with a mutual friend.
6. Had committed burglary (£900 1986) and fraud (£700 1986) with him and others and dealt cannabis.
7. She was given immunity from prosecution and a caution, in exchange for her testimony against him in the 5 murder cases.
8. After her testimony at trial in 1986 she immediately sold her story for £25000 to the News of the World.

School Principal ?
No comments ?
Just Unbelievable.
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9:20 AM on 7/17/2012
http://jeremybamber.org/julie-mugford/
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9:23 AM on 7/17/2012
Why are Essex Police not getting a injunction stopping Mr Bamber from publishing this if it in not true?
http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/what-really-happened

So many qestions

All these things have been discussed before. There have been lots of Julie threads.

Briefly -

1: Her own WS says she knew of Bamber's plans. When
    interviewed on TV she said she did not believe he would do
    anything.

2: What could she do in London ? She could not dial out from her
     place. Lewisham is not the place to walk around at 3am.
    Anyway it was Bamber's family.

3: There is a thread on why it took her a month.

4: Ditto point 3.

5: She spoke to several people before approaching the police.

6: The joint fraud using Susan Battersby's cheque book was in
    1984. Bamber broke into the caravan site. Julie was lumbered
    with being a lookout.

7:  She had completed her WS before the police knew anything
     about the fraud. She confessed to the caravan break in before
    completing her WS. Anyway the police had to look at the big
    picture.

8: The NOTW approached Julie after inside information said
     Bamber was guilty. Bamber had approached the NOTW and
    the Sun. Offering an explosive story. He complained about his
    NOTW deal.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #95 on: January 14, 2015, 10:45:PM »
All these things have been discussed before. There have been lots of Julie threads.

Briefly -

1: Her own WS says she knew of Bamber's plans. When
    interviewed on TV she said she did not believe he would do
    anything.

2: What could she do in London ? She could not dial out from her
     place. Lewisham is not the place to walk around at 3am.
    Anyway it was Bamber's family.

3: There is a thread on why it took her a month.

4: Ditto point 3.

5: She spoke to several people before approaching the police.

6: The joint fraud using Susan Battersby's cheque book was in
    1984. Bamber broke into the caravan site. Julie was lumbered
    with being a lookout.

7:  She had completed her WS before the police knew anything
     about the fraud. She confessed to the caravan break in before
    completing her WS. Anyway the police had to look at the big
    picture.

8: The NOTW approached Julie after inside information said
     Bamber was guilty. Bamber had approached the NOTW and
    the Sun. Offering an explosive story. He complained about his
    NOTW deal.

Oh shut up Adam  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #96 on: January 14, 2015, 11:02:PM »
Oh shut up Adam  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
He treats up like idiots doesn't he. ;D

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #97 on: January 14, 2015, 11:21:PM »
He treats up like idiots doesn't he. ;D

Hey Mr Gee. Adam knows I am joking.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #98 on: January 14, 2015, 11:43:PM »
Hey Mr Gee. Adam knows I am joking.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Maybe, but he wasn't.

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #99 on: January 15, 2015, 06:24:AM »
Just been skimming through the " Compilation of JM's statements " I can't believe some of what she said. It's really forced if you're adept to reading between the lines.

Reading between the lines is just opinion Lookout.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2015, 06:32:AM »
We are seeing it now, aren´t we?

It's an old article, when that was written in 2012 (Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition April 19, 2012 A9) Simon McKay was still his solicitor.
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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2015, 09:12:AM »
Just been skimming through the " Compilation of JM's statements " I can't believe some of what she said. It's really forced if you're adept to reading between the lines.
One word for that: "Coached". ;)

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2015, 09:13:AM »
Reading between the lines is just opinion Lookout.
As most things are on this forum Caroline. :)

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2015, 10:36:AM »
As most things are on this forum Caroline. :)





Of course they are,Mr G. The same as all the books.  ;D

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Re: How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?
« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2015, 11:02:AM »
As most things are on this forum Caroline. :)

There are also a lot of assuptions that get weaved in as fact - the panic button, the monestery, EP posing bodies etc.
Few people have the imagination for reality