They denied seeing a figure at bedroom window, but forget about female body...

[Lugg]

Have to agree ralf, it does seem strange that not one of the police mentioned to Jeremy that they were in conversation with his sister.  You certainly have a point.  It may simply be that amongst the confusion no one bothered to tell him....possibility considering the general incompetence of EP???

In actual fact Jeremy said that it never occurred to him that he would every go to prison because he was obvious that he was innocent and the police also knew that he was innocent.

[Reader]

Was that before, during or after the trial, and how does it relate to ralf's point?

[Lugg]

Was that before, during or after the trial, and how does it relate to ralf's point?

Well Ralph wrote this

why didn’t he tell the police incredulously that officers must know of his innocence, as some of them had spoken to Sheila while she was alive and when Jeremy’s whereabouts were well accounted for? The defence team never raised any such objection, then or in the years which followed, until one sentence in a log written up by an operator miles away seemed to throw up an inconsistency which could be exploited.

I was just adding what Jeremy had said i an interview that it never occurred to him that he would ever go to prison as he was innocent and furthermore, said he the police knew he was innocent. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly that the reason they knew he was innocent was the fact that they were in conversation with Sheila before the raid team broke in, whilst Jeremy was outside with them?

[guest7363]

Well Ralph wrote this  I was just adding what Jeremy had said i an interview that it never occurred to him that he would ever go to prison as he was innocent and furthermore, said he the police knew he was innocent. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly that the reason they knew he was innocent was the fact that they were in conversation with Sheila before the raid team broke in, whilst Jeremy was outside with them?

I think a more logical explanation would be, because it never happened?

[Caroline R]

I think a more logical explanation would be, because it never happened?

Hi Ralf
They may not have actually spoken to Sheila and 'In conversation' may just have been in reference to someone 'trying' to communicate with someone in the house. However, the fact the JB assumes they were talking to Sheila doesn't make him guilty, in fact if innocent, it's a perfectly reasonable assumption to make. Given what was written in the log.

[mertol22]

Could have been June Bamber.

[Steve_uk]

Could have been June Bamber.

But Mike suggests that June received the first seven bullets from the anschutz which would have made her immovable,though it seems even after this onslaught she managed to work her way to the end of the bed.

Did she realize that the perpetrator of the attacks that morning was in fact her own beloved son,or did she cling onto the notion that it had to be an outside force? Did Jeremy wear a cap to conceal his face or were his parents fully aware of the perpetrator? Why was June vindictively shot between the eyes:was this Jeremy's hallmark resolving never to look at her again,as his refusal to identify the bodies would indicate?

[mertol22]

As im beat and 100 miles from home i will return later today, you seem to be in and out of the timetable of events for the night in question.

[Reader]

I was assuming . . .

As far as I know, Jeremy never became aware at the time of any conversational response from within the house. As the loudhailer was tried repeatedly, Jeremy may well have assumed there was no response.

[Caroline R]

As far as I know, Jeremy never became aware at the time of any conversational response from within the house. As the loudhailer was tried repeatedly, Jeremy may well have assumed there was no response.

Exactly!!

[mike tesko]

This matter could easily be resolved, simply by PS Bews repeating what he told the control room when  the police and Jeremy returned to the patrol car, after the sighting...

Additionally,  the person who recieved the radio message from CA07 at that time, could also confirm what PS Bews said then...

Furthermore...

The person who the control room contacted to deploy the firearms officers to the incident needs to be looked at...

And also...

The firearms officers themselves, need to be asked, what they were told, and by whom they were told to go to the incident...

It should be obvious to everyone, that a senior officer deployed the firearms team to the incident, but so far we have not heard what he was told, or what instructions he gave to the firearms officers when he deployed them...

Finally, there exists a log of what PS Bews told the control room at 6:02am (from the scene) but its contents are being deliberately withheld...

Therefore, should anyone of these (above) elements be disclosed, the truth about the "trick of light", would easily be exposed as a lie...

[Lugg]

This is bews when he saw the "trick of light".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YN_IHu8oA

[lookout]

Could have been June Bamber.

I've said that too a few times,Mertol. Poor June was particularly " in the thick of it ".

[Steve_uk]

This matter could easily be resolved, simply by PS Bews repeating what he told the control room when  the police and Jeremy returned to the patrol car, after the sighting...

Additionally,  the person who recieved the radio message from CA07 at that time, could also confirm what PS Bews said then...

Furthermore...

The person who the control room contacted to deploy the firearms officers to the incident needs to be looked at...

And also...

The firearms officers themselves, need to be asked, what they were told, and by whom they were told to go to the incident...

It should be obvious to everyone, that a senior officer deployed the firearms team to the incident, but so far we have not heard what he was told, or what instructions he gave to the firearms officers when he deployed them...

Finally, there exists a log of what PS Bews told the control room at 6:02am (from the scene) but its contents are being deliberately withheld...

Therefore, should anyone of these (above) elements be disclosed, the truth about the "trick of light", would easily be exposed as a lie...

This is all very reasonable mike,but I have a problem with Jeremy telling the Police that Sheila had recently indulged in target practice.

[Alias]

My daughter got a ticket today as well Patti, guess who is paying?

You shouldn´t! If she is old enough to drive a car, she is also old enough to pay her bills!!