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Offline susan

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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 07:17:PM »
bigdave  Lugg will not have fallen out with you he is too kind and forgiving to be like that.  If you upset him and you said sorry he will be cool.  Don't worry, ;)
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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 07:20:PM »
How do you start a subject in here susan?
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Caroline R

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 07:24:PM »
Quote from: bigdave1975 on February 18, 2013, 07:12:PM
My hangover is gone but i think lugg has fallen out with me lol.

From the 'Case Discussion' screen, just scroll to the top or bottom of the page and you will see a 'New Topic' button (it's blue), click on it and fill in a title and your first post information!
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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 08:08:PM »
Quote from: bigdave1975 on February 18, 2013, 07:01:PM
Hi lugg sorry for calling you anti semitic.
That's ok Dave. Forget it. I have. ;D
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Offline OnceSaid

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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2013, 10:44:AM »
Quote from: Patti on February 18, 2013, 04:05:PM
Hi OnceSaid....Fill me in please.  :) :) :) :) :)

Hi Patti, this link may explain it better than I could  :)

http://www.outdoorpros.com/How-To-Guides/How-To-Zero-A-Rifle-Scope/182
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Offline big-goolies

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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2013, 03:23:PM »
Patti wants filling in ?  :P
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-Harters-

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2013, 06:24:PM »
Statement from Robert Radcliffe.
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Caroline R

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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2013, 06:27:PM »
Quote from: Yeltrah on February 19, 2013, 06:24:PM
Statement from Robert Radcliffe.

Cheers for that Hartley! They didn't ask him if he 'zeroed' the sight. And I wonder why he was never asked to be a witness?
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2013, 07:46:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on February 19, 2013, 06:27:PM
Cheers for that Hartley! They didn't ask him if he 'zeroed' the sight. And I wonder why he was never asked to be a witness?

He does refer to previous statements though. Maybe further insight is contained in other statements.

I think this zeroed thing is a bit of a red herring, the rifle would have been zeroed in by somebody, it doesn't really matter who it was. Even if the gun shop did do it, it's likely it would have needed to be repeated at some point in the 9 months since purchasing it (depending on use).

Would there be any point in calling him as a witness?

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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2013, 07:48:PM »
Quote from: OnceSaid on February 19, 2013, 10:44:AM
Hi Patti, this link may explain it better than I could  :)

http://www.outdoorpros.com/How-To-Guides/How-To-Zero-A-Rifle-Scope/182

Thank you OnceSaid, it appears more difficult to zero than I first thought.  I wonder why the gun shop did not have these facilities available back then.... :-\ :) :) :) :)
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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2013, 07:52:PM »
Hi patti how r u?
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Re: Caught in a lie
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2013, 07:54:PM »
Quote from: bigdave1975 on February 19, 2013, 07:52:PM
Hi patti how r u?

Hi Dave I am fine thank you. How's you?   :) :) :) :) :)
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-Harters-

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2013, 07:57:PM »
Quote from: Patti on February 19, 2013, 07:48:PM
Thank you OnceSaid, it appears more difficult to zero than I first thought.  I wonder why the gun shop did not have these facilities available back then.... :-\ :) :) :) :)

I don't know whether they did or not, but clearly it would not be unusual for them to do so. Pargeter was very familiar with .22 rifles and entered competitions, if it was so absurd for the shop to zero the rifle then he wouldn't have suggested it.

Either way, he simply said that he thought JB or NB had mentioned to him that the shop had zeroed the weapon. So he either thought correctly or was mistaken. It was unusual to remove the sight without good reason, of course there may have been a good reason that we are not aware of.
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-Harters-

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2013, 07:59:PM »
They delivered the rifle to WHF, could it have been zeroed in then?  :-\
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Caroline R

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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2013, 08:09:PM »
Quote from: Yeltrah on February 19, 2013, 07:46:PM
He does refer to previous statements though. Maybe further insight is contained in other statements.

I think this zeroed thing is a bit of a red herring, the rifle would have been zeroed in by somebody, it doesn't really matter who it was. Even if the gun shop did do it, it's likely it would have needed to be repeated at some point in the 9 months since purchasing it (depending on use).

Would there be any point in calling him as a witness?

Possibly not but I think it does put paid to the idea that they wouldn't have been removed.
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