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Offline mike tesko

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #150 on: October 27, 2013, 07:59:AM »
Information, documentation, and photographs which were originally present upon various hard drives from 2003 / 2004, on / in computers owned and used by myself, were transferred onto a portable device currently in my possession, before the hard drives in question were physically removed from the shells / casings of each of those computers...

Photograph of portable device produced:- (Image of relevant device temporarily suspended)...
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #151 on: October 27, 2013, 08:07:AM »
Hi Mike would be really interested to read any info you have concerning threats to Nevill and the rest of the family and how it was dealt with by the police etc. Thanks for the offer :)

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #152 on: October 27, 2013, 08:40:AM »
Hi Mike would be really interested to read any info you have concerning threats to Nevill and the rest of the family and how it was dealt with by the police etc. Thanks for the offer :)

Hi Maggie,

I will be posting the material in due course, once you read it you will be left in no doubt that the panic button was fitted in the bedside cabinet of the main bedroom, and dare I say it, that it was June Bamber who actually activated it. Bloodstains which originated from June were found upon the button on the device on that side of the bed...

Hence, why her blood was found on the bedroom carpet from the right hand side of the bed, around the foot of the bed, and to the left hand side of the bed - I believe it was June Bam,ber who actually activated the alarm, after being shot herself whilst in bed, and overhearing other shots downstairs whilst or shortly after Ralph made the call to Jeremy (3.25am), and the police at (3.36am)...
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #153 on: October 27, 2013, 09:04:AM »
Hi Maggie,

I will be posting the material in due course, once you read it you will be left in no doubt that the panic button was fitted in the bedside cabinet of the main bedroom, and dare I say it, that it was June Bamber who actually activated it. Bloodstains which originated from June were found upon the button on the device on that side of the bed...

Hence, why her blood was found on the bedroom carpet from the right hand side of the bed, around the foot of the bed, and to the left hand side of the bed - I believe it was June Bam,ber who actually activated the alarm, after being shot herself whilst in bed, and overhearing other shots downstairs whilst or shortly after Ralph made the call to Jeremy (3.25am), and the police at (3.36am)...
I too will be very interested in reading that Mike.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #154 on: October 27, 2013, 09:10:AM »
Jeremy's defence team surely has all this information? ??? ??? ???

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #155 on: October 27, 2013, 09:16:AM »
Morning Patti  hope you have not landed up in Halifax with the strong winds ;D I agree the panic button issue has been resolved and we should now forget about it 8)

Morning Susie :)

Not yet, I have anchored my self to the dog's leg lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #156 on: October 27, 2013, 09:18:AM »
Hi Patti knew you were a head banger ;D ;D ;D ;D it is so nice you have such a happy disposition and make us laugh :-*

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #157 on: October 27, 2013, 09:18:AM »
Mike,,it sounds very much as though Jeremy wasn't aware it was there,,and may have been fitted latterly,after threats were made to the family.
That being the case,,had Jeremy known,,he wouldn't have taken any chances in entering the property,,nor would he have stayed behind,hiding anywhere,,instead of leaving at 10pm when he said.
The whole point in having a panic button installed,,is not to tell anyone,,so that if there was an appropriate time to use it,,then it's depressed.
Sheila may not even have been aware of it either,as word about its existance would soon spread,and it then defeats the object of its use.

I can fully understand Neville not having had a burglar alarm,,as they tend to advertise the fact that there are valuable items within.

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« Reply #158 on: October 27, 2013, 09:23:AM »
I am no expert in DNA but this is how the findings for the 2002 were explained to me at the time.

Pam gave DNA as June's sister. The DNA found in the silencer was of sufficient a match as would be expected of ones sister and an extremely high probability that it was June's. I believe a statistic was given, which I'm sure is in the judgement, but all agreed that it WAS June's DNA in the silencer.

The match to Sheila's was statistically much lower. It was above average but not enough to say with any certainty. When the expert said that in her opinion there was a GOOD chance it WAS Sheila's, if I remember correctly, she was admonished by one of the judges as going too far....( I think I remeber it being a 'she' but again I could be mistaken.)

As for the evidence, I do not believe that the silencer is the only thing that convicted him.

The whole phone call scenario is vitally important and if Bamber is innocent then he is the unluckiest man that ever lived.

Vic good morning to you. :)

Are probabilities the same as a unique match?  I don't think it is.  The problem I have is that no one can say 100% that the DNA belonged to June....Likely and probable is not a good answer in my opinion. 

The crowns case was that Sheila's blood was found in the silencer therefore she could not have shot herself and put the silencer back in the gun cupboard. 

Now, we know that Sheila's blood was not in the silencer and that its probably June's DNA which was found.  The COA excepted that it belonged to June.  If this is so then it is also possible that Sheila could have put the silencer back into the cupboard before shooting herself..... :) :) :) :)

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #159 on: October 27, 2013, 09:32:AM »
Hi Patti knew you were a head banger ;D ;D ;D ;D it is so nice you have such a happy disposition and make us laugh :-*

Susie  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #160 on: October 27, 2013, 09:38:AM »
Hi Patti,,the burn marks on Nevilles' back weren't caused by a gun with a silencer fitted. It had to be the muzzle which would create the burns/marks like that.
So I believe that Sheila may have initially picked up the silencer,,with bloodied hand,, to either work out how,and if it was worth fitting,then put it back without using it.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #161 on: October 27, 2013, 09:39:AM »
Hi Patti,,the burn marks on Nevilles' back weren't caused by a gun with a silencer fitted. It had to be the muzzle which would create the burns/marks like that.
So I believe that Sheila may have initially picked up the silencer,,with bloodied hand,, to either work out how,and if it was worth fitting,then put it back without using it.

Hi Lookout,

That is a very interesting theory...
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« Reply #162 on: October 27, 2013, 09:46:AM »
Hi Lookout,

That is a very interesting theory...




Mike,,if this indeed how it happened,,then it would prove that Jeremy had no part whatsoever in the killings. ( which I don't think he did,anyway.)

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #163 on: October 27, 2013, 09:47:AM »



Mike,,if this indeed how it happened,,then it would prove that Jeremy had no part whatsoever in the killings. ( which I don't think he did,anyway.)





It would certainly blow other far-fetched theories out of the water.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #164 on: October 27, 2013, 09:50:AM »
Hi Patti,,the burn marks on Nevilles' back weren't caused by a gun with a silencer fitted. It had to be the muzzle which would create the burns/marks like that.
So I believe that Sheila may have initially picked up the silencer,,with bloodied hand,, to either work out how,and if it was worth fitting,then put it back without using it.

Hi Lookout :)

I was highlighting the crowns case...I have problems in believing the silencer was ever fitted to the rifle.  Vanezes says quite clearly that the marks on Neville's arm was done by the muzzle of the rifle.  Surely Vanzes would know the difference from finger gouges and that of the muzzle of the rifle. 

The burn marks on NB'S was proved not to have come from the silencer fitted. But,it was said that more test were needed because the muzzle of the rifle did not get hot enough to have made the burn marks.

Who is to know that after June was shot the silencer was taken off....We just don't know....If only eh?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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