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Offline mike tesko

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2013, 12:41:PM »
This photograph was taken by me at Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham, at the same time I took a photograph of Sheila's body on the bed. The photograph of Sheila on the bed is prented in the same photograph album, as this image...
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2013, 12:43:PM »
This photograph was taken by me at Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham, at the same time I took a photograph of Sheila's body on the bed. The photograph of Sheila on the bed is prented in the same photograph album, as this image...

Just so there is no mystery...

There were 10 images in this presentation, including the one which I have posted, the instant image was the 7th in the booklet, photographs 8, 9 and 10 are situated beneath this photograph, the previous six, numbered, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, already viewed, and turned over before photograph 7...

I believe that the missing negatives, from the original strip of negatives, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10, have been edited, so that the origunal negatives, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7/8, no longer exist. It would be very easy for the defence to check to see if the negative for the posted image (photoghraph number 66) is one of the missing negatives from the original strip of negatives, which were taken when Sheila's body was being photographed whilst it was in the bedroom, in two separate locations...

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2013, 12:50:PM »
I see non of you are trying to mock me now...
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2013, 12:53:PM »
I see non of you are trying to mock me now...

Mock you? No..simply trying to point out the fact that the album which contained 50 photos was not the only album the jury saw, no matter how many times you say it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2013, 02:09:PM »
I see non of you are trying to mock me now...
I'm not mocking you Mike. I just wondered why you chose to take a copy of this photo that is commonly known. But not the one of sheila on the bed?
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2013, 02:14:PM »
It would be very easy for the defence to check to see if the negative for the posted image (photograph number 66) is one of the missing negatives from the original strip of negatives . . .
Precisely how could they do that?

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2013, 02:27:PM »
Mock you? No..simply trying to point out the fact that the album which contained 50 photos was not the only album the jury saw, no matter how many times you say it.

The jury did not see another album, otherwise the additional album would have been made into a court exhibit - since there was no additional court exhibit for any other photographs other than the court album which consisted of 50 photographs, what you are saying can easily be proven to be a lie and very misleading. I do not need to convince anybody about that / this, because rules of evidence dictate that what I am saying has to be the truth...

Now, as far as the prosecution having access to additional photoghrahs during the trial which were not disclosed to the jury is concerned, then that is possible, but it does not mean or prove that the jury saw any of these additional ones...
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2013, 02:30:PM »
The jury did not see another album, otherwise the additional album would have been made into a court exhibit - since there was no additional court exhibit for any other photographs other than the court album which consisted of 50 photographs, what you are saying can easily be proven to be a lie and very misleading. I do not need to convince anybody about that / this, because rules of evidence dictate that what I am saying has to be the truth...

Now, as far as the prosecution having access to additional photoghrahs during the trial which were not disclosed to the jury is concerned, then that is possible, but it does not mean or prove that the jury saw any of these additional ones...

They were, the album of PM photos is one which springs to mind.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2013, 02:35:PM »
I'm not mocking you Mike. I just wondered why you chose to take a copy of this photo that is commonly known. But not the one of sheila on the bed?

This photograph was not commonly available or known about at the time I took it at Ewen Smiths office. It has only become commonly known about since that occasion - the photographs I took at that time were taken to show that all of them were inside card folders, and the one in question was numbered 66, which was one of 10 inside that cardboard folder. It will be a very interesting exercise for the defence to carry out to check to see if one of the missing 7/8 negatives could be the negative for this photograph, that's all I am saying...

Sheila was photographed on the bed, I do not particularly care whether anybody believes or accepts this to be true, what is important to me, is that I know it exists, and that Sheila's body was on the bed...
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2013, 02:36:PM »
They were, the album of PM photos is one which springs to mind.

Court exhibit reference for these albums, please...
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2013, 02:38:PM »
Court exhibit reference for these albums, please...

We went over this a few months ago, go look at Bird's court transcript.
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2013, 02:42:PM »
This photograph was not commonly available or known about at the time I took it at Ewen Smiths office. It has only become commonly known about since that occasion - the photographs I took at that time were taken to show that all of them were inside card folders, and the one in question was numbered 66, which was one of 10 inside that cardboard folder. It will be a very interesting exercise for the defence to carry out to check to see if one of the missing 7/8 negatives could be the negative for this photograph, that's all I am saying...

Sheila was photographed on the bed, I do not particularly care whether anybody believes or accepts this to be true, what is important to me, is that I know it exists, and that Sheila's body was on the bed...





Well someone had lain on top of the bed because of the indentation/impression  left behind,,,,without having slept inside the covers.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2013, 03:42:PM »




Well someone had lain on top of the bed because of the indentation/impression  left behind,,,,without having slept inside the covers.
Wasn't that the bed in Sheila's own room lookout and not the bed in the master bedroom?

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2013, 03:51:PM »
Wasn't that the bed in Sheila's own room lookout and not the bed in the master bedroom?


It was where Sheila would have slept,,Steve,,,but didn't, as it happened.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2013, 04:15:PM »
This photograph was not commonly available or known about at the time I took it at Ewen Smiths office.
You took photographs using your own camera while in Ewen Smith's office? I don't recall your mentioning that in the past, even when you said that you had taken away a photograph and posted it to Jeremy.