The case of Madeleine McCann

[mike tesko]

Yes, of course I did...

Anyone going back to apartments, 5A, 5B, 5D and 5H would easily have been able to see if the shutter at the bedroom window was raised up, and the window open, with its curtains fluttering about. This is what convinces me that Jane Tanners account is not a truthful one. If it was true, for example, she couldn't help to have missed the shutter at the window of apartment 5A raised up, with window open and curtains fluttering when she went back to her own apartment (5D). Not only that but with the return of two further members of the group at around 9:30pm, who as I say volunteered to check 5A for the McCanns, as well as go to check their own apartments, either of these two characters would have spotted the raised shutter, open window and fluttering curtains, once they had left 5A at the poolside, and gone to their respective apartments on the opposite side of the building? If shove came to push and I had to pick the identity of those involved in Maddies removal from apartment 5A, I would have to put Jane Tanner and the two group members who left the tapas bar at 9:30pm, in the frame...

I think that Maddie was removed from apartment 5A, at some time between 9:30 - 10pm...

[mike tesko]

I think that Maddie was removed from apartment 5A, at some time between 9:30 - 10pm...

I also think that Jane Tanners absence from the tapas bar at the time Kate supposedly discovers Maddie to be missing, is no coincidence...

[mike tesko]

I also think that Jane Tanners absence from the tapas bar at the time Kate supposedly discovers Maddie to be missing, is no coincidence...

If you link this to the fact that the two characters who volunteered to check apartment 5A for the McCanns at 9;30pm, were told they could gain access through the unlocked patio door, and that this was the first occasion that anyone knew that the parents had left their children in an insecure building, the signs are obvious that someone took advantage of this at the time of this fact being shared by the parents, with them?

[mike tesko]

Not to be overlooked, is the fact that whoever carried off Maddie from 5A almost certainly had to go directly past the front doors of apartments 5B and 5D, and the stairwell that led to apartment 5H (above)...

[Patti]

I think that Maddie was removed from apartment 5A, at some time between 9:30 - 10pm...

Hi Mike, was that the last time Tanner passed that window though? Did she go back to the bar? Memory has gone, it;s been a long time since I looked at the statements...I did a timeline...but, I can't find it, but I am going back a few years..... know she was in the apartment when the alarm was raised.

Mike can you see that window clearly in an evening? I know trees have grown etc.....

[Patti]

Not to be overlooked, is the fact that whoever carried off Maddie from 5A almost certainly had to go directly past the front doors of apartments 5B and 5D, and the stairwell that led to apartment 5H (above)...

It sounds crazy. You would think if the abduction was planned, so would the get away....in, out and gone!

It makes no sense to carry an abducted child around with you for x number of minutes...You say you are not sure of Tannner's statement, I have never been sure about the Smiths...However there are more of the Smiths that saw the sighting, which leads me to believe that they were telling the truth....

I can't see why Tanner would lie....other than creating herself some much needed attention...She has children of her own...I find it difficult to think that she was lying....but I suppose there has to be scope between them all.....

If she was telling the truth then he was heading towards Murat's......He did hire a car the next morning and this has never been explained...although I feel he was just as much a victim as the McCann's were in the eyes of the PJ. 

[mike tesko]

Hi Mike, was that the last time Tanner passed that window though? Did she go back to the bar? Memory has gone, it;s been a long time since I looked at the statements...I did a timeline...but, I can't find it, but I am going back a few years..... know she was in the apartment when the alarm was raised.

Mike can you see that window clearly in an evening? I know trees have grown etc.....

Yes, you can see the window of 5A as soon as you turn the corner of the road junction and start to go uphill, the boundary wall is taller closest to the junction, but it tapers away the closer you progress to the entrance of the car park. I do not profess to know how tall Jane Tanner is, but I should say that once she had come around the bend at the junction, she would only have needed to go a couple of meters and if looking left, she would have had a clear view of the bedroom window at 5A. For some reason she makes no mention in any of her accounts about whether or not she could see the window in question from the footpath at the roadside, or if at that stage the shutter was up or down, or if the window was open or closed, or if the curtain was fluttering or not?

[Patti]

I can't understand it....several of the party passed that window. I know that if you're not looking for it, maybe you could have passed it once...but several times??

Here is Jane's statement original transcripts. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Tanner4of7_HO4.pdf

[mike tesko]

I can't understand it....several of the party passed that window. I know that if you're not looking for it, maybe you could have passed it once...but several times??

Here is Jane's statement original transcripts. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Tanner4of7_HO4.pdf

I am interested in the part of this interview where Jane Tanner makes mention of an earlier occasion during the week before the night when Maddie went missing, when Russel and someone else who Tanner does not want to name, checked on Maddie? I am wondering if this had anything at all to do with the occasion when Maddie complained to Kate about not coming the previous evening when they had been awake and crying? It is also interesting to note, that Jane Tanner says that Russell had met Robert Murat earlier in the week, and I was just wondering if Murat was the other person who went to check on Maddie and the children which Maddie mentioned to Kate?

[mike tesko]

Here are some night photographs which I took in 2010:-

[mike tesko]

Here are some more images from the area around apartment 5A car park, and a view down hill from outside the doorway of the same apartment:-

[Patti]

Mike thanks for them, it confirms to me that the car park is well lit up at the front of the apartments...How could they have missed the window?

Not sure about Murat, Mike. He was was supposed to have been seen that night by someone in the Tapas 9 ....but he denies any involvement and his mother gave him an alibi....

But he did phone Malinka up at about 11pm that night...and both of then denied it...why?

[mike tesko]

Mike thanks for them, it confirms to me that the car park is well lit up at the front of the apartments...How could they have missed the window?

Not sure about Murat, Mike. He was was supposed to have been seen that night by someone in the Tapas 9 ....but he denies any involvement and his mother gave him an alibi....

But he did phone Malinka up at about 11pm that night...and both of then denied it...why?

Alarm bells are ringing in my head - I would like the police to get to the bottom of this business where Jane Tanner starts to tell the Leicester police about an earlier occasion in the week before the night when Maddie went missing when her partner Russell O'Brien checked on Maddie and the other two children with someone else, she did not want to name? I think it is vitally important to identify the occasion Tanner spoke about and to find out who this other person was /is?

I fell sure the McCann parents did not know anything at all about this previous check having been made by Russell O'Brien, and another?

[mike tesko]

Alarm bells are ringing in my head - I would like the police to get to the bottom of this business where Jane Tanner starts to tell the Leicester police about an earlier occasion in the week before the night when Maddie went missing when her partner Russell O'Brien checked on Maddie and the other two children with someone else, she did not want to name? I think it is vitally important to identify the occasion Tanner spoke about and to find out who this other person was /is?

I fell sure the McCann parents did not know anything at all about this previous check having been made by Russell O'Brien, and another?

I am just wondering if the other person on that / this other unreported occasion was either Murat or Malinka?

[Patti]

I will have to re-check it all Mike. It's years since I was involved in researching the case.

Did you also know that the Smith Family knew Murat? Not that it has any relevance, but it's worth knowing....

Also in Kate's book she never mentions the Smith family, she calls them the family from Ireland...