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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6540 on: May 31, 2026, 11:56:PM »
But all we have is the available witness statements to go by, Cutie!
As far as I can see, all you can do is give you're theory to operation Grange or an investigative journalist or such who will follow up your lead and see if the Tranmers story holds up?
Flight records would be the obvious place to start!

I am convinced one or both Tranmers were involved but I am open minded about which one or both?  Also the motive is unknown.  This makes a big difference.  If the motive was sadistic/sexual then one or both could have driven off towards Quarteria and disposed of the body en route or shortly afterwards especially when the media became involved.  Its 55 miles from PDL to Quarteria so a huge area.  CAT said they had visited the Algarve often so they were familiar with the area. 

Unlikely any airline holds records for 19 years.  All of this should have been investigated at the time by the PJ. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6541 on: June 01, 2026, 12:12:AM »
That's the context of their visit. There would have to be malice aforethought, the opportunity to abduct conveniently arising whilst they were visiting auntie, then the inexplicable act of killing a three-year-old when more likely having discovered the coloboma and panicked she could be identified they would just have left her in a public place for the parents to retrieve.

Yes it was the context of their visit but it does not mean they should not be considered suspects given their close proximity to MM shortly before she disappeared especially given the contradictory testimony in CAT's WS. 

It is possible one or both were involved.  The motive is unknown.  MM was almost 4 yoa and by all accounts birght.  It would have been possible for trained investigators to coax identifying info out of her had her abductor(s) left her somewhere. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6542 on: June 01, 2026, 12:48:AM »
I tend towards an accident of some description which was covered up. Plenty of choices. How about while KM was in the shower. She could have collided with M and she fell and hit her head.

In which case why didn't KM, a medi doctor, apply first aid and/or contact the emergency services?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6543 on: June 01, 2026, 10:32:AM »
But all we have is the available witness statements to go by, Cutie!
As far as I can see, all you can do is give you're theory to operation Grange or an investigative journalist or such who will follow up your lead and see if the Tranmers story holds up?
Flight records would be the obvious place to start!

Or contact the McCanns
[email protected]

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6544 on: June 01, 2026, 11:59:AM »
Or contact the McCanns
[email protected]
Yes, never thought of that, good point, Handyman!
That would be the way to go!

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6545 on: June 01, 2026, 12:24:PM »
I was trying to find info about the story behind Gerry McCann replacing the fridge in the apartment he moved into when apartment 5A was cordoned off.
Apparently, he mentioned it on his daily blog diary, and then later deleted it. Try as I may I can't find any screen shots. But this is quite a useful resource.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250109031417/http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/home.htm

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6546 on: June 01, 2026, 12:38:PM »
Or contact the McCanns
[email protected]

But even if others in a position of influence think there might be some mileage in my theory it wouldn't go anywhere without evidence and any evidence that might have existed such as DNA in the Tranmer's hire car, flight records, bank records, CCTV etc, etc will be long gone.  Unless of course MM is still alive. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6547 on: June 01, 2026, 12:40:PM »
I was trying to find info about the story behind Gerry McCann replacing the fridge in the apartment he moved into when apartment 5A was cordoned off.
Apparently, he mentioned it on his daily blog diary, and then later deleted it. Try as I may I can't find any screen shots. But this is quite a useful resource.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250109031417/http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/home.htm

How does a replacement fridge relate to anything?  What are you inferring?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6548 on: June 01, 2026, 01:17:PM »
But even if others in a position of influence think there might be some mileage in my theory it wouldn't go anywhere without evidence and any evidence that might have existed such as DNA in the Tranmer's hire car, flight records, bank records, CCTV etc, etc will be long gone.  Unless of course MM is still alive.
Or if they find Maddies body in any of the locations the Tranmers frequented, Cutie!

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6549 on: June 01, 2026, 01:52:PM »
Or if they find Maddies body in any of the locations the Tranmers frequented, Cutie!

Well yes snow66!  But you would still need evidence. 

When you consider adults have disappeared without trace eg Suzy Lamplugh and Claudia Lawrence I don't hold out much chance of a small child being traced now.  Sadly probably just small bones buried somewhere  :(
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6550 on: June 01, 2026, 04:38:PM »
How does a replacement fridge relate to anything?  What are you inferring?
There was some ambiguity as to whether it was the fridge-freezer in apartment 5A or the one in 5H, where they moved immediately after their daughter's disappearance. Both were not big enough to conceal a body, which was the allegation circulating at the time.

They then rented a villa, though I'm not sure if it was the appliance there that Gerry dumped at a waste disposal site.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6551 on: June 01, 2026, 06:20:PM »
I was trying to find info about the story behind Gerry McCann replacing the fridge in the apartment he moved into when apartment 5A was cordoned off.
Apparently, he mentioned it on his daily blog diary, and then later deleted it. Try as I may I can't find any screen shots. But this is quite a useful resource.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250109031417/http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/home.htm

this is a myth

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6553 on: June 01, 2026, 11:26:PM »
It's Dr Gonçalo Amaral's allegation. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8681497/madeleine-mccann-cop-fridge-theory-car-netflix/

The article starts off with "disgraced cop" so straight away you can see where it's going.
The fridge theory pops up quite a lot in the comments section of some of the MM related youtube videos.
Particularly the fridge in the McCanns new apartment breaking down and Gerry taking it upon himself to go out and replace it (even mentioning it on his blog). If this was so you'd expect Amaral to have jumped all over it.

I read somewhere that it was Amaral's idea to bring in the sniffer dogs, he had a lot riding on it. So is it possible the scent could have been planted.
There's a famous case down here in NZ where the cops were caught out planting evidence to get their prime suspect convicted.

Nice overview of the apartment.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6554 on: June 01, 2026, 11:46:PM »
The article starts off with "disgraced cop" so straight away you can see where it's going.
The fridge theory pops up quite a lot in the comments section of some of the MM related youtube videos.
Particularly the fridge in the McCanns new apartment breaking down and Gerry taking it upon himself to go out and replace it (even mentioning it on his blog). If this was so you'd expect Amaral to have jumped all over it.

I read somewhere that it was Amaral's idea to bring in the sniffer dogs, he had a lot riding on it. So is it possible the scent could have been planted.
There's a famous case down here in NZ where the cops were caught out planting evidence to get their prime suspect convicted.

Nice overview of the apartment.


Maybe i've asked you this before, handyman, but are you anywhere near to Noel Edmonds restaurant?