The case of Madeleine McCann

[snow66!]

Well done for stopping. 

Well, I had to stop really, Dave, I was being a complete pain in the arse!
With any addiction its those round about you that suffer the most!

[Cambridgecutie]

Well, I had to stop really, Dave, I was being a complete pain in the arse!
With any addiction its those round about you that suffer the most!

I guess I am lucky because I can take it or leave it.  Just choose to take more than leave    I think all addictions have a genetic component to them and/or the addict has some sort of biological propensity to addiction. 

During covid I would take a riverside walk to do my food shopping about 2 to 3 times weekly.  The weather was nice a lot of the time so on the way back I would sit in the same spot along the river and have a beer and whatever savoury nibbles I purchased.  A sort of mini picnic     This was shortly after we moved and I was on the big gardening project so I just wanted a break and change of scene.  Anyway I got chatting to this woman at the river, she was a couple of years older than me and it transpired our childhood homes were very close and we attended the same primary school.  We also shared the same perception of the teachers which was quite amusing.  We exchanged numbers and met up from time to time.  But I could tell there was something not quite right.  It was as though a huge chunk of her life was missing.  Anyway to cut a long story short after about 2 years of knowing her she told me she had been a heroin addict for 22 years!  Ended up in a psychiatric hospital.  She said in the end she was injecting grams of the stuff every day just to feel 'normal'.  I wasn't really shocked when she told me as I suspected there was something in her background.  She now has a nice home, lovely daugher, two grandsons and a granddaughter.  Amazing that she managed to turn her life around. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Back to MM.  At one time CAT was a member of Algarve Photography (AP).  AP run regular competitions.  Here are a couple of CAT's winning photos:

2018 - March - Movement - Oh Such Joy *

2019 - July - Frozen Movement - Blowing In The Wind

* Who is the young girl?

https://algarvephotographersgroup.org/hall-of-fame/

[snow66!]

I guess I am lucky because I can take it or leave it.  Just choose to take more than leave    I think all addictions have a genetic component to them and/or the addict has some sort of biological propensity to addiction. 

During covid I would take a riverside walk to do my food shopping about 2 to 3 times weekly.  The weather was nice a lot of the time so on the way back I would sit in the same spot along the river and have a beer and whatever savoury nibbles I purchased.  A sort of mini picnic     This was shortly after we moved and I was on the big gardening project so I just wanted a break and change of scene.  Anyway I got chatting to this woman at the river, she was a couple of years older than me and it transpired our childhood homes were very close and we attended the same primary school.  We also shared the same perception of the teachers which was quite amusing.  We exchanged numbers and met up from time to time.  But I could tell there was something not quite right.  It was as though a huge chunk of her life was missing.  Anyway to cut a long story short after about 2 years of knowing her she told me she had been a heroin addict for 22 years!  Ended up in a psychiatric hospital.  She said in the end she was injecting grams of the stuff every day just to feel 'normal'.  I wasn't really shocked when she told me as I suspected there was something in her background.  She now has a nice home, lovely daugher, two grandsons and a granddaughter.  Amazing that she managed to turn her life around.

Yes, you're friend did well to kick the habit, wouldn't be easy!
Luckily, i've never touched illegal drugs of any kind, would have most likely killed me!

[snow66!]

Back to MM.  At one time CAT was a member of Algarve Photography (AP).  AP run regular competitions.  Here are a couple of CAT's winning photos:

2018 - March - Movement - Oh Such Joy *

2019 - July - Frozen Movement - Blowing In The Wind

* Who is the young girl?

https://algarvephotographersgroup.org/hall-of-fame/

Interesting! So, did the Tranmers actually live in the Algarve for a period?

[Cambridgecutie]

Interesting! So, did the Tranmers actually live in the Algarve for a period?

It appears so.  They were on the electoral at an address in Datchet, Slough up until 2010/11.  From 2011 some new names appeared which would suggest they moved. 

There were a lot of CAT's photos on the Algarve Photography site from much earlier than 2018 and 2019.  So I am assuming they lived in the Algarve at some point which fits with her claim in her WS that they were looking to purchase property in the Algarve. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Just read/heard in/on the media today that S.Yorks police is winding down the search for Ben Needham. 

If you think about all the millions of babies/toddlers/children that have gone overseas over the decades, as far as I am aware only BN and MM have disappeared.  What did they both have in common?  They were both left unsupervised which is highly unusual for children so young: 2 and 3 yoa.  Most parents of children these ages do not let them out of their sight.   

[Jonathan]

Just read/heard in/on the media today that S.Yorks police is winding down the search for Ben Needham. 

If you think about all the millions of babies/toddlers/children that have gone overseas over the decades, as far as I am aware only BN and MM have disappeared.  What did they both have in common?  They were both left unsupervised which is highly unusual for children so young: 2 and 3 yoa.  Most parents of children these ages do not let them out of their sight.

Unfair to paint the Needham family as showing the same level of neglect as the McCanns.

[snow66!]

Just read/heard in/on the media today that S.Yorks police is winding down the search for Ben Needham. 

If you think about all the millions of babies/toddlers/children that have gone overseas over the decades, as far as I am aware only BN and MM have disappeared.  What did they both have in common?  They were both left unsupervised which is highly unusual for children so young: 2 and 3 yoa.  Most parents of children these ages do not let them out of their sight.

Not familiar with the Ben Needham case, Cutie! The one that's always mentioned on youtube in regard to the McCanns is the Ramsay case!

[snow66!]

It appears so.  They were on the electoral at an address in Datchet, Slough up until 2010/11.  From 2011 some new names appeared which would suggest they moved. 

There were a lot of CAT's photos on the Algarve Photography site from much earlier than 2018 and 2019.  So I am assuming they lived in the Algarve at some point which fits with her claim in her WS that they were looking to purchase property in the Algarve.

OK, thanks, Cutie!

[David1819]

Do you think the lamp was indeed to deter intruders, Dave?
I suppose Cutie's scenario stands up to scrutiny up until the point of abduction, but afterwards?
How would the Tranmers explain the sudden appearance of Maddie, adoption? Maybe, but wouldn't you need certain papers to sign a child up to a GP or enroll in school? Maybe the Tranmers could somehow forge a birth certificate?
Maybe Cutie means it would be easier if the Tranmers were travelling around Europe?
But apart from any of this the biggest problem would be memories! I mean Maddie was almost four so would have been devastated to be removed from her parents whom she would never forget surely?
Wouldn't it have been more sensible to steal one of the younger twins?
Of course this is presuming that the Tranmers stole Maddie to bring up as their own daughter and not for a more sinister motive!
I just don't know Dave, but I suppose the Tranmers are a plausible possibility? Just odd that the police didn't see the possibility too and investigate them further?

As far as I stand, Brückner is the prime suspect for the German prosecutors office, Scotland Yard and the Portuguese Authorities. Its down to them to present their case in a court of law. Until then, speculating on a forum is rather pointless.

[Jonathan]

As far as I stand, Brückner is the prime suspect for the German prosecutors office, Scotland Yard and the Portuguese Authorities. Its down to them to present their case in a court of law. Until then, speculating on a forum is rather pointless.

You're going to be waiting a long time.

[Cambridgecutie]

Unfair to paint the Needham family as showing the same level of neglect as the McCanns.

Well his mum was at work and left BN in the care of his grandparents who obviously took their eyes off him when he was outside a property they were renovating. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Not familiar with the Ben Needham case, Cutie! The one that's always mentioned on youtube in regard to the McCanns is the Ramsay case!

I don't much know about this but what I do know I don't see any similarities with MM.  JRB was murdered in her home with her parents in residence.  I think entering children into beauty pageants and applying makeup so they look like adults is wrong on every level.  Creepy and disturbing. 

[Cambridgecutie]

As far as I stand, Brückner is the prime suspect for the German prosecutors office, Scotland Yard and the Portuguese Authorities. Its down to them to present their case in a court of law. Until then, speculating on a forum is rather pointless.

Hark at you with your pot calling the kettle black!  In case it has escaped your attention, JB was found guilty in a court of law nearly 40 years ago.  Since then his case has been the subject of many appeals and complaints none of which have been upheld but it does not stop you speculating about the case!

CB was first named a suspect nearly 6 years ago.  He will never be charged because he was not involved.

You have made it clear where you stand but others do not share your view.  If you don't want to join in and/or read the posts look away, its that simple.