The case of Madeleine McCann

[Steve_uk]

I have no idea of the motive.  And did the motive change with all the publicity?

According to CAT's WS, her husband, CT, was contracted to the EU.  CAT evidently returned to UK.  She interjected herself as a witness and was interviewed by Reading police (being her local force).  She hired out a room at the local council offices where she claims she worked as a temp.  But these rooms were available for hire by the general public.  Did CT remain in the EU with MM?  UK was part of the EU then so free to roam Schengen.  Did CAT then return to EU after the interview? 

The British police just appear to have taken CAT at face value.  No corroborating anything she said.

The United Kingdom was never part of the Schengen agreement.

[snow66!]

How would MM being carried preclude the dogs tracking her scent?

Well, in my mind, being carried is akin to being inside a vehicle as it were, if Maddie wasn't touching the ground how can her scent remain for the dogs to find? Is the scent hanging in mid air or did if fall to the ground?
I am not clued up on sniffer dogs, Cutie!

[Cambridgecutie]

The United Kingdom was never part of the Schengen agreement.

No but still had freedom of movement rights.

[Cambridgecutie]

Well, I read in the link the dogs lost the scent in the Ocean Complex compound, composed of the play area, swimming pool and surrounds. There was a report of a sighting of a man carrying a child away from the car park towards the sea, which doesn't tally with abduction by vehicle.

Well the info you read re the scent is wrong.

Lots of parents walk around holiday resorts with sleeping children.

I have never stated there's irrefutable evidence against the McCanns. But the apartments of all Tapas 7 members were searched, the British dogs alerting only in 5A, apart from some rotting meat in one of the other apartments.

The husband of the woman who owned apartment 5A died although I do not believe he died in the actual apartment.

[Cambridgecutie]

Well, in my mind, being carried is akin to being inside a vehicle as it were, if Maddie wasn't touching the ground how can her scent remain for the dogs to find? Is the scent hanging in mid air or did if fall to the ground?
I am not clued up on sniffer dogs, Cutie!

Body odour lingers in the atmosphere much the same as all smells/odours.  Dogs have amazing scent powers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_sense_of_smell

[Cambridgecutie]

Can we put this to bed now?

Does everyone agree the Tranmers abducted MM?

[Steve_uk]

Can we put this to bed now?

Does everyone agree the Tranmers abducted MM?

It's one possibility out of several.

[snow66!]

Body odour lingers in the atmosphere much the same as all smells/odours.  Dogs have amazing scent powers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_sense_of_smell

OK, understood, Cutie!

[snow66!]

Can we put this to bed now?

Does everyone agree the Tranmers abducted MM?

No, not in the meantime! I haven't even finished reading mrs Tranmers statement yet!

[handymanz]

Can we put this to bed now?

Does everyone agree the Tranmers abducted MM?

Almost there. (in terms of it being the most plausible theory)

Could the dogs have picked up Maddie's scent from a previous time, when she was in that particular vicinity where the car was parked?

Could Maddie have simply wandered outside and opportunistically grabbed?

[handymanz]

I suppose the question to ask is, was Maddie ever in that car park? Did any of the tapas seven or the McCanns hire a car and park it in that car park?
If not it is unlikely Maddie or her scent would have been present in that car park for the dogs to alert to, meaning the perp did indeed take her to a waiting vehicle on the night of the disappearance?
That is, the night Maddie went missing was the first time she had been in that car park?

I think it unlikely the McCanns or any of the Tapas 7 would have hired a car. They were only away for a week staying with kids in prebooked accommodation.

I actually had a week's holiday in the Algarve back in the 80s, I hired a motor bike for a few days and travelled around because I hadn't prebooked any accommodation.

When the McCanns later hired a car it could well have been to scope out the area looking for any clues.

[David1819]

Yes, I suppose that's true, Dave, not sure how accurate sniffer dogs are considered!
Not sure how the dogs could pick up a scent if Maddie was carried to the car park either?

Studies have shown false positive rates of up to 80 percent. But they are still very useful. If there is a 20% chance of someone having drugs, explosives or a body in their car or home, that is more than enough probable cause to justify a police search. If nothing is found then you just have a dog being a dog, its not evidence of anything. 

[snow66!]

It's one possibility out of several.

Yes, that's true, Steve.
We know the likes of Brueckner was in the vicinity that night and he most certainly had vehicles at his disposal.
And one could say he had certainly a motive for taking Maddie, while no real motive exists for the Tranmers as far as I can see.

[handymanz]

Yes, that's true, Steve.
We know the likes of Brueckner was in the vicinity that night and he most certainly had vehicles at his disposal.
And one could say he had certainly a motive for taking Maddie, while no real motive exists for the Tranmers as far as I can see.

I think for the Tranmers to be the culprits they would have to be involved in some sort of paedophile ring, a bit of a stretch.

[Cambridgecutie]

Yes, that's true, Steve.
We know the likes of Brueckner was in the vicinity that night and he most certainly had vehicles at his disposal.
And one could say he had certainly a motive for taking Maddie, while no real motive exists for the Tranmers as far as I can see.

The biggest clue in the case is that the person(s) who abducted MM knew:

- the children were left night after night alone
- the apartment was unlocked

How would CB know this? 

CB lived on the edge of the resort miles from apartment 5A.  There is no evidence whatsoever he was in the vicninity at any time during the McCanns stay.

No one knows the motive for abducting MM.  Sexual is one motive/theory.  How can you possibly say no real motive exists for the Tranmers as far as you can see when no one can possibly know the motive and as of yesterday you had not even read CAT's WS!