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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6255 on: May 08, 2026, 09:07:PM »
How did Pamela Fenn know the McCann's apartment was unlocked?

I should not be spoon feeding you like a baby Steve.  Please read the material carefully.  I will assist you this time.  The patio doors could not be locked from outside.  PF states she heard the parents return through the patio doors.  She probably saw and heard them leave through the patio doors too. 

If the Tranmers abducted Madeleiene at 6:30pm it would still be light, so not afforded the advantage of the cover of darkness.

Who said anything about abducting MM at 6.30pm?  How could they when the McCanns did not leave for TB until 7.30ish?  According to PF and CAT, CAT left circa 6.30pm.  What precluded a watch and wait or a go and return?

Nobody came forward identifying the Tranmers as hanging around the apartment at that time.

Did anyone come forward about anyone hanging around the apartment whilst the parents were at TB?  Why would the Tranmers hang around when they had a car?


There's a video here of Billericay boy Mark Williams-Thomas conducting his own investigation. It seems the German authorities can place Christian Brückner's mobile telephone outside the complex that evening. MWT finds an expert who claims he was talking to another paedophile (around the 5:00 mark).

At the end (around 58:30) he discusses a former girlfriend of the accused and reaches his conclusions. https://youtu.be/GEtAw91M-Qk

Was MWT there?  What qualifies MWT to offer up opinion that carries more weight than any other lay person?

CB lived in the PDL area so of course his phone was going through the local network.  There's nothing linking CB to the immediate vicinity.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6256 on: May 08, 2026, 09:32:PM »
I should not be spoon feeding you like a baby Steve.  Please read the material carefully.  I will assist you this time.  The patio doors could not be locked from outside.  PF states she heard the parents return through the patio doors.  She probably saw and heard them leave through the patio doors too. 

Who said anything about abducting MM at 6.30pm?  How could they when the McCanns did not leave for TB until 7.30ish?  According to PF and CAT, CAT left circa 6.30pm.  What precluded a watch and wait or a go and return?

Did anyone come forward about anyone hanging around the apartment whilst the parents were at TB?  Why would the Tranmers hang around when they had a car?


Was MWT there?  What qualifies MWT to offer up opinion that carries more weight than any other lay person?

CB lived in the PDL area so of course his phone was going through the local network.  There's nothing linking CB to the immediate vicinity.
That's not what Hans Christian Wolters says at 5:39: https://youtu.be/GEtAw91M-Qk

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6257 on: May 08, 2026, 09:36:PM »
Nearby being?

Could be right by the apartment and it still wouldn't be enough. If they had anything concrete on Bruckner he'd have been extradited to Portugal long ago. As I understand it he's not even in custody in Germany.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6258 on: May 08, 2026, 09:54:PM »
That's not what Hans Christian Wolters says at 5:39: https://youtu.be/GEtAw91M-Qk

If Wolters had anything on CB he would have charged him.  Instead he was released from jail on other charges.  No one is saying CB is a decent guy - he isn't - he's a horrible man but he isn't involved in the disappearance of MM. 
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6259 on: May 08, 2026, 09:57:PM »
Could be right by the apartment and it still wouldn't be enough. If they had anything concrete on Bruckner he'd have been extradited to Portugal long ago. As I understand it he's not even in custody in Germany.

There has never been, and never will be, anything linking CB to the disappearance of MM. 

CB was released earlier this year from a German jail on unrelated charges:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/17/madeleine-mccann-case-suspect-christian-bruckner-germany-prison-release
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6260 on: May 08, 2026, 09:59:PM »
This is quite an informative video that picks apart Carole Tranmer's statement. It also provides a good layout of the apartment complex.
No mention is made of any contradictions in Tranmer's comments about the Tapas bar itself.
He even mentions Tranmer's ties to the Royal family which he said he may discuss in a future video.

https://youtu.be/A30sM_q4GzI

I've now listened to the vid.  The producer makes the mistake of taking CAT at face value and disappearing down a rabbit hole. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6261 on: May 08, 2026, 10:19:PM »
How did Pamela Fenn know the McCann's apartment was unlocked?

If the Tranmers abducted Madeleiene at 6:30pm it would still be light, so not afforded the advantage of the cover of darkness.

Nobody came forward identifying the Tranmers as hanging around the apartment at that time.

There's a video here of Billericay boy Mark Williams-Thomas conducting his own investigation. It seems the German authorities can place Christian Brückner's mobile telephone outside the complex that evening. MWT finds an expert who claims he was talking to another paedophile (around the 5:00 mark).

At the end (around 58:30) he discusses a former girlfriend of the accused and reaches his conclusions. https://youtu.be/GEtAw91M-Qk
If the McCanns are innocent, then Maddie couldn't have been abducted before 9.15 at the earliest after Gerry's check remember, Steve!

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6262 on: May 08, 2026, 10:29:PM »
I've now listened to the vid.  The producer makes the mistake of taking CAT at face value and disappearing down a rabbit hole.
So you think mrs Tranmer made up the blond man sighting to send the police off on a false trail, Cutie?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6263 on: May 08, 2026, 10:41:PM »
So you think mrs Tranmer made up the blond man sighting to send the police off on a false trail, Cutie?

That was very inconclusive. He said the identikit photo could be David Payne, the description fitted Matthew Oldfield. If you combine the 2 together (Identikit pic & description) you'd get Gerry McCann.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6264 on: May 08, 2026, 10:47:PM »
So you think mrs Tranmer made up the blond man sighting to send the police off on a false trail, Cutie?

Yes.  And to interject herself as a 'witness'.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6265 on: May 08, 2026, 10:51:PM »
That was very inconclusive. He said the identikit photo could be David Payne, the description fitted Matthew Oldfield. If you combine the 2 together (Identikit pic & description) you'd get Gerry McCann.

Do you think she didn't see GM when she was sat on PF's balcony above?   And if she didn't see him do you think she avoided his image splashed all over the world media for 12 months prior to her interview with Leic police in 2008? 

Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6266 on: May 08, 2026, 10:55:PM »
In my view anyone who thinks the McCanns were involved suffers some sort of mental illness and/or profound learning disabilities.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6267 on: May 08, 2026, 10:58:PM »
Yes.  And to interject herself as a 'witness'.
Did mrs Tranmer volunteer the evidence about short hair blond man or did the police contact her first to get a statement due to the fact she was a relative of mrs Fenn?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6268 on: May 08, 2026, 11:00:PM »
Do you think she didn't see GM when she was sat on PF's balcony above?   And if she didn't see him do you think she avoided his image splashed all over the world media for 12 months prior to her interview with Leic police in 2008?

Obviously if it was Gerry McCann she would have recognised him from the media coverage.
The point I'm trying to make is the description of who she saw, doesn't fit with the identikit photo.
The producer of that video is in the 'McCanns are guilty' camp.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6269 on: May 08, 2026, 11:01:PM »
Do you think she didn't see GM when she was sat on PF's balcony above?   And if she didn't see him do you think she avoided his image splashed all over the world media for 12 months prior to her interview with Leic police in 2008?

In fact she would have seen DP and MO too splashed all over the media. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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