The case of Madeleine McCann

[mike tesko]

'Madeliene McCann' was already 'absent' from 'enjoying the natural company of her family' [ after around midnight] on the evening of the 1st May 2007 and being (physically) present inside the families apartment [`5A'] in/at the resort, whilst her parents were conveniently far away from their apartment enjoying themselves, whilst their three young children were all left 'home alone' with an unlocked patio door through which any interested person(s), or party, had got unrestricted access to apartment '5A', and any one of three children! It was this very same night, early hours of 2nd May (2007) that the McCann parents returned back to their apartment (tired and basically worn out') and 'Kate' chose not to sleep in the same bedroom, or the bed. She has since maintained, that she had slept in the children's bedroom, and that she was doing so, because of a snoring habit, her husband 'Gerald McCann had at that stage!

[Steve_uk]

An overview of the case on This Morning: https://youtu.be/KzBVGQtm_98

[Fairplay1]

I have always sat myself on the fence with this and just recently started to refresh , and realised that my sitting on the fence is more to do with feeling angry at the mccanns for putting their child in danger but I'm now inclined to think they made the worst decision of their life's with dreadful consequences, nobody knows better than them they let their child down and they will suffer forever.

Abduction was absolutely possible due to the mccanns and the tapas 7 leaving their children in an unsafe environment , the wrong person watching them each night leave their children on their own they sadly not intentionally created an opportunity for a predator to take advantage.  They made a really bad decision and no one knows better than them , I sense this is why the Mccanns never give up they let her down in that one moment and they must never give up on her now.
 
Look at the lead detective who in hearing of a young child being missing decided to finish his night and start his detective work the following morning, this behaviour and decision making is very flawed . Everybody knows those first hours of a missing child is crucial , this really does tell you a lot about the Portugese investigation . No matter how wrong the mccanns were this police investigation was diabolical from the onset so I can see why the mccanns sued this guy . He is beyond unprofessional his track record is dreadful and people some how think he knows the truth what merit or credibility can anyone give this guy just check out his previous dealings in finding missing children it's horrendous .He is nothing but a fraud and the Portugese police were right to get shot he was/is a complete liability . That's why I cannot sit on the fence no more , they made a horrendous decision which I believe resulted in their child been taken . Their is no doubt in my mind that abduction was an absolute possablility given all the factors , yes the family should be investigated but to exclude abduction as being possible is nonsense.

Here's hoping their will be some type of resolve although I fear the worst , but holding on to some hope ?

[Roch]

Did anyone watch the MWT investigation in to Christian B?

[Fairplay1]

Did anyone watch the MWT investigation in to Christian B?

Yes ,from his detective work on the "new suspect" it seems like a dead end with this German guy.  But I am reading that a lot of people don't rate him .  I'm not sure if the people who are running him down are angry because he obv does not support this German guy being the abducter which then leaves it still open or they just feel he is a poor investigating journalist.

I wonder if their will ever be an answer to all this.  I still even though I am moving more to abduction still have my reservations with some of the characters from the tapas 9 but that's it just niggles at this time.

[Roch]

Yes ,from his detective work on the "new suspect" it seems like a dead end with this German guy.  But I am reading that a lot of people don't rate him .  I'm not sure if the people who are running him down are angry because he obv does not support this German guy being the abducter which then leaves it still open or they just feel he is a poor investigating journalist.

Yes, I was thinking along these lines. He had a researcher in both Portugal and Germany and claimed that the program was the result of six months of research.

The German prosecutor looked uncomfortable when fielding MWT's questions. He appeared to gulp at one point.

Either the Germans have something much stronger that they're keeping schtum about .. or MWT may be correct regarding CB.

Mind you, he (CB) is a proper wrong'un.  But interesting what the defence lawyer stated in captions at the end (regarding the rape DNA evidence).

[Fairplay1]

Yes, I was thinking along these lines. He had a researcher in both Portugal and Germany and claimed that the program was the result of six months of research.

The German prosecutor looked uncomfortable when fielding MWT's questions. He appeared to gulp at one point.

Either the Germans have something much stronger that they're keeping schtum about .. or MWT may be correct regarding CB.

Mind you, he (CB) is a proper wrong'un.  But interesting what the defence lawyer stated in captions at the end (regarding the rape DNA evidence).

Yes I agree , he certainly looks like a good fit but it seems from MWT investigation he is not at this time with the evidence he has looked into supportive  ,but maybe the German Lawyer has got something that MWT has not got access to but I do wander what that could be for the lawyer to be so sure, and how long will it take for it to come out

I don't really have an opinion on MWT , I thought he did a good job looking at CB but I know people who fully support the abduction don't rate his research ability and have criticised his investigative skills but I tend to think if he had done his research and confirmed what they all wanted to hear that CB is their man they would feel different , once the bias is their people tend to reject or support depending on outcome I guess it's only human

I will have to go back and watch I might have missed that bit at the end with the rape DNA so I will give it another watch.

[Adam]

Seems the police are miles away from being able to arrest Christian B.

His name has been circulating for a long time. However all the police can say is he's an official suspect.

The documentary seemed to say he was with someone miles away that night. However had the opportunity to abduct Madeleine a few hours earlier.

Be surprised he would be calm enough to commit the crime, then straight away go and meet someone else. Then again he was a serial criminal.

[Adam]

Thought the phone records were more conclusive. However the documentary  seems to say it covers a 35 mile radious & Cristian B may not have been the phone user.

Believe he could be guilty. But can't see him being charged.

[Roch]

Well Adam, I suppose we will have to wait for the next development. The Portuguese have made him arguido for a reason. Perhaps there is more than the Germans have so far let on and more than MWT and his researchers have unearthed.

[lookout]

The " accused " had face-changing ops after Madeleine went missing. A jaw re-alignment and also dentistry work carried out on his " rabbit " teeth was done at a private clinic in Germany.
I wonder if he also had shoulder length straggly hair as was described in the first ever pic. of her abductor ?

[Roch]

The " accused " had face-changing ops after Madeleine went missing. A jaw re-alignment and also dentistry work carried out on his " rabbit " teeth was done at a private clinic in Germany.
I wonder if he also had shoulder length straggly hair as was described in the first ever pic. of her abductor ?

He was making money from drug dealing on the Algarve. So he probably had the money to get his teeth sorted etc. It's not unknown for people who become affluent to have such work carried out.

[lookout]

He was making money from drug dealing on the Algarve. So he probably had the money to get his teeth sorted etc. It's not unknown for people who become affluent to have such work carried out.

I realise that Roch, but it's a bit iffy after the event ?

[handymanz]

I've just binge watched the 3X1 hour doco featuring the suspect Christian B.

One thing which puzzled me was,
Jane Tanner said when she went to check on her kids she saw a man in the distance walking  carrying a child. (the description of the man fitted Christian B)
Shortly afterwards another person from the group checked the McCanns apartment and saw the twins were safe and sound, but he didn't look around the corner to check on Maddie, he then went back to the Tapas bar.

Later on when Kate McCann went to check on her kids she said the door to the her kids room was open, along with some of the windows, she sounded the alarm on noticing Maddie had disappeared.

When the guy that checked on seeing the twins were OK, why didn't he notice the windows and door were open?

[Steve_uk]

I've just binge watched the 3X1 hour doco featuring the suspect Christian B.

One thing which puzzled me was,
Jane Tanner said when she went to check on her kids she saw a man in the distance walking  carrying a child. (the description of the man fitted Christian B)
Shortly afterwards another person from the group checked the McCanns apartment and saw the twins were safe and sound, but he didn't look around the corner to check on Maddie, he then went back to the Tapas bar.

Later on when Kate McCann went to check on her kids she said the door to the her kids room was open, along with some of the windows, she sounded the alarm on noticing Maddie had disappeared.

When the guy that checked on seeing the twins were OK, why didn't he notice the windows and door were open?

When you're wining and dining and off guard in holiday mode it might make times and events unreliable as to exactly when the three children were checked on.