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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5265 on: July 21, 2020, 12:42:PM »
The UK and its 'Brexit' policy decision, was welcomed and embraced by the UK elite, as a means of 'distancing themselves' from the trade in child abduction, child trafficking, child murders, and or, 'child sacrifice practice', linked to Satanic, witchcraft, demonic and the Church cultures...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5266 on: July 21, 2020, 01:09:PM »
lol

Madeliene McCanns parents know that she is dead!

They know that  'no-one' will ever be able to prove that she died inside apartment 5A on the evening of 3rd May 2007. She was already gone before the parents returned back from their visit to 'Chaplins Bar' after midnight on the evening of 1st May...

Mrs Fenns account regarding the crying of a toddler in the apartment (5A) below her own on that occasion is true! In addition, the sliding open/closure of the patio door which she recounted at around 11.45pm, and that caused the incessant crying to cease, and only to be replaced by the same toddler calling out, 'Daddy, daddy, and daddy'...

Not yet determined, but highly significant, was the date when the McCann parents first decided to stop using the lockable carpark/roadside door of their apartment (5A), and they started to leave the patio door on the poolside of the apartment , with its metal shutter raised up?

It was the evening of 2nd May 2007, when the parents adopted this change!




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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5267 on: July 21, 2020, 01:22:PM »
Madeliene McCanns parents know that she is dead!

They know that  'no-one' will ever be able to prove that she died inside apartment 5A on the evening of 3rd May 2007. She was already gone before the parents returned back from their visit to 'Chaplins Bar' after midnight on the evening of 1st May...

Mrs Fenns account regarding the crying of a toddler in the apartment (5A) below her own on that occasion is true! In addition, the sliding open/closure of the patio door which she recounted at around 11.45pm, and that caused the incessant crying to cease, and only to be replaced by the same toddler calling out, 'Daddy, daddy, and daddy'...

It was the evening of 2nd May 2007, when the parents adopted this change!

Red flag -  (16) - the McCann parents, and friends who did visit Chaplins Bar on the evening of 1st May 2007, after having their regular evening meal at the tapas bar restaurant (9.00pm - 10.00pm) were too far away from their respective apartments of the Ocean Club, to do anything to safeguard or to protect any child in any of their apartments up the hill in block five...

Not even the Payne family who had a baby listening device, but which wouldn't be workable if they themselves were in tow at Chaplins bar on that occasion!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5268 on: July 21, 2020, 01:48:PM »
But, according to Gerald McCann at 10 pm, Red flag (15) - he was still seated in the tapas bar restaurant with other members of the group and remained there until Kate McCann returned from her 10 pm check of apartment 5A raising the alarm that 'Madeliene was gone' , and 'they have taken her'...

Red flag (17) - accord to Mr McCanns (and other conspirators)  versions of the events, and it was 9.20pm, on the evening of 3rd May 2007, when he returned back to the restaurant from his epic 9.05pm check of 5A..

That's a 15 minute period (9.05pm - 9.20pm)..

Red flag (18) - Jane Tanners 9.10pm departure from the restaurant at 9.10pm, does not include the timing of her return back to the tapas bar restaurant, and with regard to that visit!  So, how long was she away from the restaurant on that occasion?

Well,  based on basic walking speed statistics, and it would have taken just under a minute, for her to reach her own apartment and back again (2 minutes allowed for a quick spot check of the apartment and safety of their child) , and so within 4 to five minutes (tops) Jane Tanner has left and returned to the restaurant, and she is back there by 9.15pm, (her child is not unwell, and to all intents and purposes, Russell O'Brien' has at all times remained seated at the dining table)... ...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5269 on: July 21, 2020, 01:53:PM »

Red flag (17) - accord to Mr McCanns (and other conspirators) 

Well,  based on basic walking speed statistics, it would have taken just under a minute, for her to reach her own apartment and back again (2 minutes allowed for a quick spot check of the apartment and safety of their child) , and so within 4 to five minutes (tops) Jane Tanner has left and returned to the restaurant, and she is back there by 9.15pm, (her child is not unwell, and to all intents and purposes, Russell O'Brien' has at all times remained seated at the dining table)... ...

Red flag (19) - So if Jane Tanner saw Gerald McCann talking to Jez Wilkins on her outward journey to her apartment at 9.10pm, why didn't she see him there still talking to Wilkins on her return leg of that visit at around 9.15pm?

What was McCann doing when Jane Tanner allegedly returned to the restaurant (if she did at all) at 9.15pm?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5270 on: July 21, 2020, 02:14:PM »

What was McCann doing when Jane Tanner allegedly returned to the restaurant (if she did at all) at 9.15pm?

Red flag (20) - Gerald McCanns whereabouts during that 10 minute period (9.10pm - 9.20pm),  in between Jane Tanners outward journey to look for him, and to check her apartment, and then allegedly return to the tapas bar restaurant?

Rather more disturbingly, did Gerald McCann, or Jane Tanner ever return to the restaurant at all on the evening of 3rd May 2007?


If, Mr McCann had returned to the tapas bar from his 9.05pm departure, by 9.20pm?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5271 on: July 21, 2020, 02:19:PM »
Red flag (20) - Gerald McCanns whereabouts during that 10 minute period (9.10pm - 9.20pm),  in between Jane Tanners outward journey to look for him, and to check her apartment, and then allegedly return to the tapas bar restaurant?

Rather more disturbingly, did Gerald McCann, or Jane Tanner, ever return to the restaurant at all on the evening of 3rd May 2007?

If, Mr McCann had returned to the tapas bar from his 9.05pm departure, by 9.20pm?

Red flag (21) - the timing of Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien, volunteering to save Kate McCann a wasted journey to check 5A, at 9.20pm or 9.30pm?

Hang on a moment,  or indeed as many 10 minutes (overlap misinformation) - so no sooner does Mr McCann return to the tapas bar restaurant at or by 9.20pm, (please bear in mind the alleged time that Oldfield / O'Brien account to do Kate McCanns check at 9.20pm/9.30pm, makes no sense at all)...

Gerald McCann, had to all intents and purposes, used a covert code of contact, to to try and hide his culpability..

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5272 on: July 21, 2020, 09:03:PM »
OVERVIEW  (9.00pm - (9.30pm) - 10.00pm)

Mathew Oldfield (9.00pm)
Discovered Madeliene was missing from the  McCann Apartment, and and informs Gerald McCann upon returning to tapas bar restaurant..

Gerald McCann  (9.05pm) It is believed that he did not return to restuarant
Leaves tapas bar restaurant and returns to apartment 5A, as a result of Mathew Oldfield information about Madeliene missing from the McCann apartment..

Jane Tanner (9.10pm) It is believed that she did not return to restuarant
Leaves tapas bar restaurant to find out why Gerald McCann was taking his time back in apartment 5A, and to check on her own child in the apartment she shared with Russell O'Brien..
sighting of man carrying child in his arms introduced by Jane Tanner creation of alibi for Gerald McCann[/color]

Couple at dining table  (9.15pm)
Heated discussion about a 3 year old toddler having gone missing from an Ocean Club apartment..

Carpenter couple (9.20pm - 9.30pm)
When leaving small reception entrance of Ocean Club and crossing over road near McCann apartment Mrs Carpenter heard a voice calling out, 'Madeliene, Madeliene, Madeliene'

Kate M Cann (9.20pm - 9.30pm)
Prevented from going to apartment to 5A, by interference of Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien..

Mathew Oldfield / Russell O'Brien (9.20pm - 9.30pm)
Leave tapas restaurant to check McCann apartment as well as their own

Dining tables vacated (9.30pm)
None of the tapas 9  members around dining tables again that evening except for Diane Webster who arrived back there 15 minutes later to mind items of property boning to other group members.

Dining tables still vacant, except for Diane Webster (9.45pm)
Other group members, had already returned to apartment block 5, checking safety of their own children in the wake of Madeliene McCanns loss..

Kate McCann alerts regarding Madeliene McCanns fate missing from apartment 5A (10.00pm)

Bogus script introduced by members of the group

Smith contingent sighting of man carrying a child in street nearby 'LUZDOC'  (10.00pm)

  Witness was 99.9% certain man seen was Gerald McCann
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5273 on: July 21, 2020, 10:21:PM »
It's interesting that the CB angle is being pushed by The Mail, The Sun, The Star, and The Express. Push push push.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5274 on: July 21, 2020, 10:49:PM »
It's interesting that the CB angle is being pushed by The Mail, The Sun, The Star, and The Express. Push push push.

Not yet divulged by police in Germany, Portugal and the UK,  is who did Christian B purchase the huge camper van from in Portugal,  and how he paid for it (cash or cheque)?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5275 on: July 22, 2020, 06:43:AM »
Gerald McCann was alibi'd on each occasion a suspect was seen carrying a toddler in his arms

(1) -  sighting of man carrying child in his arms introduced by Jane Tanner creation of alibi for Gerald McCann (9.10pm) on the evening of 3rd May 2007..

(2) - Smith contingent sighting of man carrying a child in street nearby 'LUZDOC'  (10.00pm)

He was with Jez Wilkins when Jane Tanner saw them in the street  by apartment 5A  in clear view of Jez Wilkins  and Jane Tanner  although neither Gerald McCann  or Jez Wilkins saw her at all. They did not see the man that Jane Tanner saw walking across the junction carrying a child in his arms. So, in a nutshell, if that man was the abductor carrying Madeliene McCann  off, it would appear that Gerald McCann had nothing to do with her disappearance because technically he was in the company of an independent witness and being observed by Jane Tanner to boot!

Similarly, Gerald McCann claims he was sat in the tapas bar restuarant between 9.20pm - 10.00pm, until Kate did her 10pm check of their children and apartment, only to discover that she was missing from there. That's his alibi to enable him to side swipe the accusation by the Smith contingent that he was the man they had seen carrying a toddler, by making out that he could not have been in two places at any one time..


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5276 on: July 22, 2020, 01:06:PM »
Red flag (22) - In view of the uncertainty regarding whether or not Gerald McCann returned to the tapas bar restuarant  at 9.20pm, from his 9.05pm visit and check of his children and apartment 5A, and from then on that he remained in the vicinity of the restuarant continuously until Kate McCann went to do her 10pm check of the same, only for her to allegedly rush back to the restuarant to give the alert that someone (they) had taken Madeliene from their unlocked apartment, to be pondered why after appearing upset at 9.05pm when Mathew allegedly told him that everything was quite back at the McCann apartment. It is much more likely that Mathew Oldfield told Gerald McCann that he had entered apartment 5A via the unlocked poolside patio door, went into the children's bedroom but only found the McCann twins sleeping in their cots. He would have also mentioned that he had looked everywhere, the living room, the bathroom / toilet and the parents bedroom, and that because Oldfield was informing him loud enough for other tapas bar restaurant customers to overhear. The McCann parents knew that Madeliene  was not present back in the apartment since around midnight on the evening of 1st May 2007, to which Mrs Fenn alluded to when she heard a child crying continuously in the apartment  beneath hers (apartment 5A), and that it lasted from about 10.30pm until around 11.45pm, when she thought the parents must have returned because she thought she heard the patio door on the poolside of apartment 5A slide open, which coincided with the crying stopping, and a childs voice calling out, 'Daddy  daddy, daddy'. .

It is easy in the cold light of day, to see how Mrs Fenn mistakenly thought it had been the parents who had returned at around 11.45pm to apartment 5A because of the noise made of a patio door being slid open. We do not know why or how Mrs Fenn thought that the two parents had returned at that time, but she must have blindly overheard two distinctive adult voices, of a man, and a woman, without so much as physically seeing both of them...

It wasn't until the evening of the 3rd May 2007 that the McCann parents decided to leave the poolside patio door unlocked, with its metal shutter raised up. They did this after Madeliene went missing on the late evening of 1st May 2007. Albeit, I don't think they realised she had been taken, or had gone missing until breakfast time on 2nd May. In hindsite, how had the two adults who had entered apartment  5A through the poolside patio door, if the McCann parents hadn't left it unlocked and open, and would not do so for a further two days (evening of 3rd May 2007)..

So, if the McCanns did not leave the poolside door unlocked and open until the evening of 3rd May, then neither the McCann parents, or an adult male, and an adult female, could have entered apartment 5A  as a result of sliding open the poolside patio door. It is worth noting that in Mrs Fenns account regarding the alleged return of the parents back into apartment 5A  at around 11.45pm on the evening of 1st May 2007, does not include any mention of apartment  5A's poolside patio door being slid open one way once, and back again when it was closed. In all these circumstances, it seems to me that the crying child stopping occurred either side of the noise of a sliding patio door, and a childs voice calling out 'Daddy, daddy, daddy', occurred in that particular sequence of events, linked to a couple who had been inside apartment 5A  all the while a child had been crying! The solitary sliding noise of apartment 5A's poolside patio door must have been whoever the man and woman were, who took Madeleine with them leaving the patio door unlocked and open. In other words, at 11.45pm on the evening of 1st May 2007, someone left the McCanns apartment taking Madeliene  with them, and that this goes someway toward explaining that it couldn't have been the McCanns returning back from Chaplins bar on that occasion, because they would have not left the patio door unlocked and open with their three siblings inside, and they go off galavanting all the way down to Chaplins bar! What this implies, is that the man and woman who left apartment 5A at around 11.45pm, taking Madeleine with them, had entered the apartment via the lockable roadside door rarlier at a time which coincided with the McCann parents and their friends leaving the tapas bar restuarant at around 10pm (after eating their prebooked evening meal) and instead of going back to their respective apartments they turned right instead of left when they exited the  small reception entrance and they must have been seen going further away from their apartments by a considerably larger distance than between their apartments and the Ocean club tapas bar. With this in mind how could any member of that group safely and legally check whether or not, their children wouldn't come to any harm!

Whoever  the couple were/are, they must have had a key. It might possibly have been a pass key used by a member of the Ocean club staff. I seem to recollect that a security key kept in a safe in the Maintenance Department went missing around the time of Madeliene McCanns ordeal and displaced disappearance (1st May -3rd May)...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5277 on: July 23, 2020, 07:06:AM »
Red flag (22) -
Whoever  the couple were/are, they must have had a key. It might possibly have been a pass key used by a member of the Ocean club staff. I seem to recollect that a security key kept in a safe in the Maintenance Department went missing around the time of Madeliene McCanns ordeal and displaced disappearance (1st May -3rd May)...

Red flag (23) - so which door did Gerald McCann use to enter and depart apartment 5A at the time of his 9.05pm check of his apartment/his children? The lockable roadside doorway, or the unlocked poolside patio door?

Well, rather astonishingly he originally told the Portugese police that he used the lockable roadside door, but later on, he altered his account and said that in fact he had used the unlocked / open poolside patio door!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5278 on: July 23, 2020, 07:21:AM »

Well, rather astonishingly he originally told the Portugese police that he used the lockable roadside door, but later on, he altered his account and said that in fact he had used the unlocked / open poolside patio door!

It has not been made clear by the McCann parents, or their friends how each of them had jointly left apartment  5A, or returned and then left and returned again  to apartment 5A on the evening of 3rd May 2007...

For example, Kate and Gerald McCann (when they initially go for their evening meal to the tapas bar restaurant) at about 8.30pm, or thereabouts.

Mathew Oldfield - his 9.00pm check of apartment 5A..

Gerald McCanns9.10pm check of apartment 5A..

Mathew Oldfield/Russell O'Brien 9.20pm - 9.30pm check of apartment 5A..

All adult members of the tapas 9 group 9.30pm return to apartment 5A

Diane Webster 9.45pm return to dining table from apartment 5A..

Kate McCann10.00pm check of apartment 5A ..

Who had possession of the door key(apartment 5A, lockable roadside door)throughout, and on each of these occasions?

Gerald McCann - 8.30pm
Kate McCann - 8.30pm
Mathew Oldfield - 9.00pm
Gerald McCann - 9.10pm
Mat Oldfield - 9.20pm and 9.30pm
Russell O'Brien - 9.20pm - 9.30pm
All members of group - 9.30pm
Diane Webster - 9.45pm
Kate McCann - 10.00pm
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5279 on: July 23, 2020, 08:48:AM »
Red flag (24) - if Kate McCann entered apartment 5A  via the unlocked / open poolside patio door, rather than enter via the lockable roadside door (by use of the door key), it falls to be considered that upon discovering Madeliene to be missing (10.00pm) and having frantically searched all the rooms of the apartment, which door she allegedly ran back outside through to look around the carpark/roadside area of 5A? Did she originally enter the apartment by use of the lockable roadside door by use of its key, or the poolside patio door irrespective of whether or not she had possession of the roadside lockable door key at that stage?

It makes a huge difference since if when she did her so called 10pm check of apartment 5A  she did not have the lockable roadside door key she couldn't have unlocked the roadside locked door from outside the premises! Not only that, but the approach to the lockable roadside door from the car park/roadside direction is by way of a walled footpath, which would have taken her directly past the outside of the bedroom with its metal shutter and she would have noticed whether or not the shutter to that window was raised up, with the window itself slid open and its curtains flailing before she entered the apartment using the lockable roadside door route! There is an added complication in connection to and if Kate McCann used the lockable roadside door to enter apartment 5A during her one and only check of the apartment, and that is that upon leaving the small reception entrance of the Ocean Club, and turning left up the hill towards 5A there comes a point at which whether or not your intention is to enter the apartment by way of the lockable roadside door, there are two possible routes which Kate could have taken to end up outside the roadside lockable door. In between the poolside of the Ocean club and blocks five, four and three runs a walled footpath. Inbetween blocks five and four, there exists a footpath which can take you to the carpark/roadside area of the apartment blocks. From arriving on the carpark side of block five, you could walk along the walled footpath to get access to the lockable door to apartment 5A. Invariably if Kate McCann had taken this route with the view of using the door key to gain access, she would still have needed to go passed the metal shutter of her children's bedroom window (which would be on the right hand side of her body) as she went towards the roadside door. If that metal shutter had been raised at that point, the glass window beyond it slid open, and the bedroom curtains flailing about she would have known this before she went into the apartment, thus exposing the script she has been relying on for the past 13 years (as false or fraudulent) involving all the drama, of entering and noticing the children's bedroom door set more open than at the time it was originally set when they went out earlier for their evening meal, and the slam dunk bang of the same door as she went to reset it, followed by a frantic search of the apartment looking for Madelienes whereabouts!

Then something rather astonishing happens because Kate informs us all that after discovering the disappearance and in house search for Madeliene that she ran outside looking for her!
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