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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5145 on: June 21, 2020, 02:59:PM »
They are searching wells around the farmhouse he was living in at the time. If she is found in one of them it would be extremely incriminating.

Let's see the map? Bearing in mind the proximity to Pria Da Luz and the cadavar alerts in the McCann's hire car.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5146 on: June 21, 2020, 03:32:PM »
Let's see the map? Bearing in mind the proximity to Pria Da Luz and the cadavar alerts in the McCann's hire car.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5147 on: June 21, 2020, 04:01:PM »


But where are the wells? We need like an overhead map. Maybe the press will provide one soon.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5148 on: June 21, 2020, 08:28:PM »
From Sputnik:

The investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a 3-year old British girl who went missing in Portugal in 2007, has seen a significant development recently, as German authorities have identified who they believe is the primary suspect in her disappearance.

Christian Brueckner, the primary suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, had “psychopathic traits”, his former lawyer has said.

Serafim Vieira, who worked as a legal representative for the 44-year old German sex offender, also claimed in an interview with Portugal’s RTP TV that he believes that Brueckner could be behind McCann's abduction.

“I believe he could be behind the disappearance of Maddie," he said. “I can’t say he didn’t have a psychopathic temperament - on the contrary," Mr. Vieira worked for Brueckner in 2006 following his arrest for stealing diesel from HGVs in Portugal’s Algarve - a year before Madeline went missing."

The lawyer suggested that he may have admitted his guilt to that crime to prevent police from searching a farmhouse near Praia da Luz, Portugal where he lived. Law enforcement were therefore unaware of Brueckner's residency there when they conducted their search for McCann in 2007.

Madeleine disappeared in May, 4 months after Brueckner's release and just before her fourth birthday. This sparked a worldwide search which has involved British, Portuguese, and German police.

After more than a decade of investigation, German law enforcement revealed that Brueckner was their main suspect in the McCann disappearance.

A mobile phone call to the suspect placed him in the Praia da Luz area, which she disappeared from on the night in question.

German authorities are looking into any potential involvement by staff at the complex where the McCanns stayed to see if they gave any of the McCann's residency details.

“We are investigating if an Ocean Club member of staff helped the suspect on the night Madeleine disappeared,", said Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor leading the investigation.

“This is of interest to us. The phone call made by the suspect could be between him and a member of staff who told him when to break into the McCanns’ apartment".

While 2 workers in the complex with criminal records have been interviewed by Portuguese authorities, there is so far no evidence they worked with Brueckner.

Gerry and Kate McCann were on a vacation in Praia da Luz with their three children when their daughter went missing.

They had been dining with a group of friends in a restaurant nearby, while the children slept in the apartment. Throughout the evening, the adults returned to check on them but at around 10pm, Mrs McCann discovered that Madeleine was missing.

German investigators have informed the McCann's that they believe Madeleine is dead.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5149 on: June 22, 2020, 07:32:AM »
Has your view on the case changed Mike, since the recent developments?

David1819, no I still believe parents are involved, aided and abbetted by other group members; at least two Ocean club members of staff; Robert Murat; Serge Malinka;  the illusive priest from St Vincent's Church who took the McCanns confessions, before handing over the keys of the church to where they sought nightly refuge, whilst their other two children were being looked after by some as yet unidentified party..

It is still my belief that Madelienes body was taken into the derelict building opposite the church in Prai De Luz, and that the parents, were in communication with the person(s) responsible for disposing of their daughters remains, by use of Gerald McCanns mobile phone (from breakfast time, on the morning of Thursday the 3rd May 2007, thereafter). The Cadaver dog and bloodhound alerts in apartment 5A, also the wardrobe in parents bedroom; behind Sofa in living room; In bushes of poolside garden; in front of hire car; on ignition key to hire car; in boot of hire car; Cuddlecat toy; Kate McCanns clothing, must amount to either, the dead body of Madeliene or another having been concealed, or touched, carried or transported at one time or another. Cadaveric scent and blood could have been transferred to all the aforementioned locations simply by having physical contact with a dead person (including/excluding a deceased Madeliene McCann)  elsewhere, or for that matter, as if someone had come into contact with an item of clothing worn by a deceased person!  So, the dog alerts don't prove or establish that the deceased body of Madeliene was necessarily present at any stage in all the locations where the dogs alerted. But, it suggests that somebody who had contact with a deceased person, or an item of clothing worn by the deceased, or was at one time or another in all the locations where the dogs alerted...

With so many dog alerts all over the place, inside apartment 5A, outside apartment 5A, on items of clothing, on Madelienes 'Cuddlecat toy, in the front of the hire car, in the boot of the hire car, on the ignition key to the hire car, etc,it suggests very strongly that the McCann parents had some sort of a connection with a dead body, and Madelienes disappearance. Who else, could have visited all the locations or touched items, and had involvement with the hire car, other than Gerald McCann, Kate Healey, or a group member?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5150 on: June 22, 2020, 07:44:AM »

With so many dog alerts all over the place, inside apartment 5A, outside apartment 5A, on items of clothing, on Madelienes 'Cuddlecat toy, in the front of the hire car, in the boot of the hire car, on the ignition key to the hire car, etc,it suggests very strongly that the McCann parents had some sort of a connection with a dead body, and Madelienes disappearance. Who else, could have visited all the locations or touched items, and had involvement with the hire car, other than Gerald McCann, Kate Healey, or a group member?

There is also the matter of the missing holdall belonging to Gerald McCann which was photographed in the parents bedroom wardrobe on the first day of the police investigation ( big enough to conceal the body of a small child)? Was it just a coincidence that the Cadaver dog alerted to the exact same spot inside the parents wardrobe where the holdall had been photographed?

And then the holdall vanished, just like Madeliene appears to have evaporated?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5151 on: June 22, 2020, 09:19:AM »
There is also the matter of the missing holdall belonging to Gerald McCann which was photographed in the parents bedroom wardrobe on the first day of the police investigation ( big enough to conceal the body of a small child)? Was it just a coincidence that the Cadaver dog alerted to the exact same spot inside the parents wardrobe where the holdall had been photographed?

And then the holdall vanished, just like Madeliene appears to have evaporated?

If you tie Bruckner to the disappearance, then you have to tie the McCann's to Bruckner. Or, you have to tie both the McCann's and Bruckner to an intermediary agent. If Bruckner has knowledge of Maddie's remains having been disposed of, that in itself does not implicate Bruckner to the exclusion of all other parties.

There may well have been a 'paedophile ring' operating. If there was one operating, that does not in itself implicate the McCann's regarding any involvement in such circles. For example, it's possible for Maddie to have died in an accident and it's possible that the McCann's were assisted in disposing of Maddie's corpse directly or indirectly, by persons linked to any such ring.

It is inconceivable that a cadaver dog would pinpoint only the McCann's apartment and only the McCann's hire car, to the exclusion of all other apartments and cars that were checked, by chance or in error, with a child missing from that very same apartment.

However, if Maddie died in an accident, there would have to be some other potentially negligent or sinister aspect linked to the accident, in order for the McCann's to stage Maddie's disappearance and obtain assistance in the disposal of her corpse.

If the UK police were serious about solving the case, they would have investigated the McCann's either openly or in secret. The police were told not to do so. Even though UK police were initially in agreement with the PJ regarding the McCann's.  That block on the police investigating the McCann's is political and sinister. The block on Amaral's book is sinister.

Why was a high level govt spin doctor allocated to the McCann's? What happened to their first spokesperson? I believe she realised that the McCann's were genuinely implicated and she was replaced.

Like I said before, the Portuguese are not stupid. They are not inferior or lacking in intelligence or in powers of detection. They are not somehow unable to sniff out a lie.

If we criticise the Portuguese for not following all these leads we have seen come to nothing in recent years, then we should criticise the UK for not further investigating the McCann's.  I belive the Portuguese would have got there, if they had been left to continue their investigation. And don't forget, there is not just one Amaral book but two. One about the involvement of British intelligence.

New Mail article re Amaral: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8445467/Maddie-McCann-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-scapegoat-says-Portuguese-detective.html
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5152 on: June 22, 2020, 11:32:AM »
The former best friend of the man suspected of abducting Madeleine McCann says he is sure that the German paedophile took the young girl....


Interview: Christian Brückner was my best friend - I'm sure he took Madeleine McCann

The Austrian was friends with Brückner from early 2000, when they lived and committed crimes together in Portugal

By Jamie Johnson PRAIA DA LUZ and Jon Clarke

21 June 2020 • 9:30pm

Michael Tatschl on Christian Brückner (above): He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money

Michael Tatschl on Christian Brückner (above): He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money CREDIT: Facebook

The former best friend of the man suspected of abducting Madeleine McCann says he is sure that the German paedophile took the young girl.

In an extraordinary interview with the Telegraph, Michael Tatschl, an Austrian drifter who lived with Christian Brückner in Portugal said he has sat down with police and told them all about his “sick” and “perverted” friend, who used to brag about his criminal exploits.

Now, he has urged Brückner to “admit it to the police and close it for good.”

With striking neck tattoos, a close cropped haircut and a large piercing on his left nipple, Tatschl spent years travelling across Europe living in camper vans.

Speaking from his home outside Graz, Austria, where he has finally settled, the 46-year-old is adamant.

"I know he did it,” he claims.

“I was living with him at the time. He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money.

"I was sure it was him the minute the police came to find me in Austria.

"They were very clear with me from the first minute. They said 'we are investigating Maddie McCann and Christian Brückner’ and I told them I knew it already. I was convinced it was him.”

Michael Tatschl:He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money

Michael Tatschl: He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money CREDIT: Facebook

Speaking for the first time about his old friend, Tatschl described how he became involved with Brückner in Portugal in the early 2000s.

The pair lived together, drank together and ultimately committed crimes together.

"I was staying at his house and camping in a van in the garden. We spent a lot of time together and had good fun.

"But he was definitely quite a strange character.

“He was always quite criminal. He liked to brag about the crimes he had done and planned to do, and how he aimed to steal as much money as he could until he reached his dream of having €1 million. Then he would stop.

"It was rich pickings there in Praia da Luz. He was always breaking into apartments in the area and bragging about it to me,” Tatschl claimed.

“He was a very good burglar and would easily climb up to first floor apartments when tourists were out.

"He would climb up to the first floor and steal everything, lots of money, valuables and so many passports. In fact hundreds of passports and lots of watches. Rolexes and other expensive watches.

"He had a hiding place in the house in the rafters in the roof. He had all the money and passports hidden up there, Tatschl claimed.”

The property in question is a farmhouse just outside Praia da Luz which Brückner rented from a British man. Neighbours said he used to race down the dusty gravel track in his Jaguar and have heated shouting matches with a string of girlfriends. Tatschl said Brückner was in a relationship with a German woman 20 years his senior at the time.

It is also where a camcorder was discovered that allegedly had footage of Brückner raping a 72-year-old tourist at a luxury villa in 2005. The video was destroyed, but the testimony of the two men who saw it helped convict Bruckner of the crime last year.

“That’s how I found out he was a sick b******.

“It was of this elderly lady who was chained to a wooden post and she was being beaten and raped.”

“But I admit I got sucked into some of his schemes,” said Tatschl.

"Taking fuel seemed pretty harmless and we did it for a few months.

"The cops caught us red handed, caught us stealing diesel and we got eight-and-a-half months in prison on remand waiting for a trial in Portimao.

"It's just a small prison, so we got to spend a lot of time together.”

In 2006, while the pair were in jail, the farmhouse was robbed, and the money, valuables and camcorder was taken.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5153 on: June 22, 2020, 11:45:AM »
The former best friend of the man suspected of abducting Madeleine McCann says he is sure that the German paedophile took the young girl....


Interview: Christian Brückner was my best friend - I'm sure he took Madeleine McCann

The Austrian was friends with Brückner from early 2000, when they lived and committed crimes together in Portugal

By Jamie Johnson PRAIA DA LUZ and Jon Clarke

21 June 2020 • 9:30pm

Michael Tatschl on Christian Brückner (above): He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money

Michael Tatschl on Christian Brückner (above): He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money CREDIT: Facebook

The former best friend of the man suspected of abducting Madeleine McCann says he is sure that the German paedophile took the young girl.

In an extraordinary interview with the Telegraph, Michael Tatschl, an Austrian drifter who lived with Christian Brückner in Portugal said he has sat down with police and told them all about his “sick” and “perverted” friend, who used to brag about his criminal exploits.

Now, he has urged Brückner to “admit it to the police and close it for good.”

With striking neck tattoos, a close cropped haircut and a large piercing on his left nipple, Tatschl spent years travelling across Europe living in camper vans.

Speaking from his home outside Graz, Austria, where he has finally settled, the 46-year-old is adamant.

"I know he did it,” he claims.

“I was living with him at the time. He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money.

"I was sure it was him the minute the police came to find me in Austria.

"They were very clear with me from the first minute. They said 'we are investigating Maddie McCann and Christian Brückner’ and I told them I knew it already. I was convinced it was him.”

Michael Tatschl:He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money

Michael Tatschl: He was my best friend and he was definitely a pervert and more than capable of snatching a child, for sexual kicks or money CREDIT: Facebook

Speaking for the first time about his old friend, Tatschl described how he became involved with Brückner in Portugal in the early 2000s.

The pair lived together, drank together and ultimately committed crimes together.

"I was staying at his house and camping in a van in the garden. We spent a lot of time together and had good fun.

"But he was definitely quite a strange character.

“He was always quite criminal. He liked to brag about the crimes he had done and planned to do, and how he aimed to steal as much money as he could until he reached his dream of having €1 million. Then he would stop.

"It was rich pickings there in Praia da Luz. He was always breaking into apartments in the area and bragging about it to me,” Tatschl claimed.

“He was a very good burglar and would easily climb up to first floor apartments when tourists were out.

"He would climb up to the first floor and steal everything, lots of money, valuables and so many passports. In fact hundreds of passports and lots of watches. Rolexes and other expensive watches.

"He had a hiding place in the house in the rafters in the roof. He had all the money and passports hidden up there, Tatschl claimed.”

The property in question is a farmhouse just outside Praia da Luz which Brückner rented from a British man. Neighbours said he used to race down the dusty gravel track in his Jaguar and have heated shouting matches with a string of girlfriends. Tatschl said Brückner was in a relationship with a German woman 20 years his senior at the time.

It is also where a camcorder was discovered that allegedly had footage of Brückner raping a 72-year-old tourist at a luxury villa in 2005. The video was destroyed, but the testimony of the two men who saw it helped convict Bruckner of the crime last year.

“That’s how I found out he was a sick b******.

“It was of this elderly lady who was chained to a wooden post and she was being beaten and raped.”

“But I admit I got sucked into some of his schemes,” said Tatschl.

"Taking fuel seemed pretty harmless and we did it for a few months.

"The cops caught us red handed, caught us stealing diesel and we got eight-and-a-half months in prison on remand waiting for a trial in Portimao.

"It's just a small prison, so we got to spend a lot of time together.”

In 2006, while the pair were in jail, the farmhouse was robbed, and the money, valuables and camcorder was taken.


On the information in the article alone, how on earth could he be sure?

And if he 'sold Maddie on' with mention of 'Morrocco' why are German police saying they are certain she is dead (then saying there is some small hope she is not).

Latest article mentions Camper Van:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8445467/Maddie-McCann-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-scapegoat-says-Portuguese-detective.html
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5154 on: June 22, 2020, 12:21:PM »
This blog has a lot of information in about the dogs, including other cases worked on.

http://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-truth-of-dogs-mccann-case-and-more.html?m=1

I agree, the time line doesn't sit right with the Tapas 9 claims and I've always wondered about Mike's claims that Maddie died earlier.  Though I can't see how her parents would have been able to conceal their emotions.

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« Reply #5155 on: June 22, 2020, 12:54:PM »
Part 2

The father-of-one says he “cannot believe” that Portuguese detectives have not yet searched the former home they shared.

When the pair were released from prison, Brückner moved into the distinctive white and yellow VW Westfalia campervan, while Tatschl says he left Portugal for Orgiva, Spain.

Five months later, Madeleine disappeared.

"He had lost the house but he was still enjoying living in the area. I think that confused the police a little as they were not sure where he was living exactly when Maddie vanished,” said Tatschl.

"The next time I saw him was in late May or early June 2007 and he arrived in Spain with his big American campervan, the Winnebago, the one with the swimsuits.

"He parked it up in Orgiva and came looking for me. It was the only reason he had come to Orgiva to find me. He knew that I was living there and he knew I had connections to the marijuana world and could help him make money.

"We all wondered where he’d got the money from.

"I remember specifically having a conversation with an English guy who lived there and we both said how on earth could have had that vehicle?

“We assumed a big drug deal or something like that. Now I suspect it was Maddie.

"He was only there that time for a couple of days and went on back to Germany selling marijuana.”

Brückner has a string of convictions, ranging from molesting a six-year-old girl in a playground when he was just a teenager, to raping a 72-year-old American woman in a horrific attack in Praia da Luz more than a decade later.

Now, he has been identified as the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. German authorities say they have evidence that she is dead, and that Brückner “did the deed” but they do not have enough evidence to charge him.

"He was definitely a pervert and all his friends thought that about him. He had some sexual issues but we didn’t think that he liked young children,” says Tatschl.

"Christian was always on the dark web. He would talk about it and he always had internet in the houses he rented.

"I don’t know exactly what he did but I suspect it involved drugs and pornography.

"He was always bragging about money and making money. He even talked about selling kids maybe to Morocco.

"I didn't really think about it at the time. Just brushed it off as joking.”

Things changed when he watched an eight-part series on the McCann case in March last year.

"When I saw the Netflix documentary I knew immediately that he was guilty.

"The part where the female tourist talked about the man turning up at her door while her child played by the front door, the creepy guy with acne and blonde hair. I just knew it was Christian for sure.”

Days later, police arrived at Tatschl’s front door.

“I had two Austrian police and two German Police turn up at my house. I was then taken to the police station where I told them my story over 14 hours.

"It was the first week of April last year and they had me in the police station from 10am to 6pm on the first day and then from 10 am until 4pm the next day.

"They were very clear with me from the first minute. They said 'we are investigating Maddie McCann and Christian Brückner’ and I told them I knew it already. I was convinced it was him. I told them ‘I know what you want. I hope I can help.’”

"I really hope they can finally close this case for the family and find Christian guilty for what he has done. He needs to admit it to the police and close it for good.”

Last week, lawyers defending Brückner said their client “denies any involvement” in the McCann case.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5156 on: June 22, 2020, 03:04:PM »
"Disgraced Madeleine McCann cop Goncalo Amaral brands Maddie murder suspect a ‘scapegoat’ on Portuguese TV"

"Asked why he thought the German authorities might have interest in coming up with new information which in his opinion had no real value, Amaral claimed: “Because it enables them to have jurisdiction over this case."



Why would the German police be interested in covering up for a couple from Leicester?


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« Reply #5157 on: June 22, 2020, 06:08:PM »
"Disgraced Madeleine McCann cop Goncalo Amaral brands Maddie murder suspect a ‘scapegoat’ on Portuguese TV"

"Asked why he thought the German authorities might have interest in coming up with new information which in his opinion had no real value, Amaral claimed: “Because it enables them to have jurisdiction over this case."



Why would the German police be interested in covering up for a couple from Leicester?



This kind of framing has probably been planned for years. Like Amaral said, if CB had been dead, he would have been the perfect suspect.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5158 on: June 22, 2020, 06:24:PM »
Well, well, well...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11863875/madeleine-mccann-christian-b-police-search-old-wells/

In 2017, Amaral told journalist the body could be hidden in a well. He also stated British intelligence services know what happened to Maddie.

If his two books are such nonsense, why are they banned and almost impossible to get hold of in UK, in normal format?

Even now with Amaral having overturned the ban, I am not aware of publishers printing.  When something gets banned in the UK, you can guarantee it's because something is highly uncomfortable for UK authorities.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5159 on: June 23, 2020, 03:11:PM »
This blog has a lot of information in about the dogs, including other cases worked on.

http://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-truth-of-dogs-mccann-case-and-more.html?m=1

I agree, the time line doesn't sit right with the Tapas 9 claims and I've always wondered about Mike's claims that Maddie died earlier.  Though I can't see how her parents would have been able to conceal their emotions.

German police have discovered an anomaly regarding a sighting in Lagos of Gerald McCann talking to somebody on a mobile phone, where he was seen pacing up and down, and back and forth, and begging /pleading with whoever he was speaking to, 'PLEASE DON' T HURT MADELIENE', 'PLEASE DON' T HURT MADELIENE', 'PLEASE DON' T HURT MADELIENE'.

The discrepancy involves the date when the eye witness saw and heard, what she claims she had seen and heard, at the time she was in the process of making a cash withdrawal from  a cash dispenser in Lagos on two different dates -  one (2nd May 2007)  before the official disappearence of Madeliene McCann, alerted to by Kate Healey at 10.00pm, on the 3rd May. 2007, and secondly, on a date 7th May 2007, afterwards!
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 03:18:PM by mike tesko »
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