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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4890 on: December 27, 2019, 09:40:AM »
Members of staff who accompanied the children and Madeleine would have needed to complete an accident / incident report covering the fact that Madeleine had fallen into the sea from one of the boats..

Additionally, she might have been seen by a paramedic, doctor or a life guard after she had been plucked out of the sea..

And, where are the witness statements and reports from members of staff who were in charge of the sailing club activity on that day?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4891 on: December 27, 2019, 09:44:AM »
Rather curiously, on the afternoon of Thursday 3rd May 2007, there was reported a sailing accident involving a catarmaran, Mathew Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and David Payne. I think it was Russell O'Brien who was said to have fallen off the boat into the sea and nearly drowned...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4892 on: December 27, 2019, 09:49:AM »
Rather curiously, on the afternoon of Thursday 3rd May 2007, there was reported a sailing accident involving a catarmaran, Mathew Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and David Payne. I think it was Russell O'Brien who was said to have fallen off the boat into the sea and nearly drowned...

What a remarkable coincidence, Madeleine falling into the sea from a catarmaran and nearly drowning, and the same thing happened to Russell O'Brien (one, or two days apart)?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4893 on: December 27, 2019, 09:50:AM »
Consider the contents of the following documents:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4894 on: December 27, 2019, 11:46:AM »
Continued :-

Bear in mind, that it was this particular day of the week (Tuesday 1st May 2007), that the McCanns and some of their friends went to Chaplin's bar and that it was after midnight during the early hours of Wednesday 2nd May 2007 that the McCann parents returned to apartment 5A, and that this extended absence from their apartment coincided with the persistent crying of a child in the apartment beneath Mrs Fenns (the McCann apartment), the crying lasted from 10.30 - 11.45pm, and only stopped when Mrs Fenn heard the patio door being either slid open, or closed to which she may well have been mistaken in thinking that it was the McCann parents returning at 11.45pm from Chaplin's bar down near the village church.... 
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4895 on: December 27, 2019, 12:27:PM »
Continued :-

Bear in mind, that it was this particular day of the week (Tuesday 1st May 2007), that the McCanns and some of their friends went to Chaplin's bar and that it was after midnight during the early hours of Wednesday 2nd May 2007 that the McCann parents returned to apartment 5A, and that this extended absence from their apartment coincided with the persistent crying of a child in the apartment beneath Mrs Fenns (the McCann apartment), the crying lasted from 10.30 - 11.45pm, and only stopped when Mrs Fenn heard the patio door being either slid open, or closed to which she may well have been mistaken in thinking that it was the McCann parents returning at 11.45pm from Chaplin's bar down near the village church.... 

But what if it wasn't the return of the McCann parents to apartment 5A, what if someone had been inside apartment 5A, all the while whilst the McCann couple and some of their friends had left the tapas restuarant after finishing their evening meal to go down the road to Chaplins bar, and someone took advantage of this and entered apartment 5A and took advantage of Madeleine? The period of persistent crying which Mrs Fenn talked about coinciding potentially with the abuse the intruder(s) were inflicting on Madeleine. The crying getting progressively louder and louder consistent with increased pain and discomfort of the child...

You see, if Mrs Fenn was right, then if it had been the McCann parents returning from Chaplin's bar at 11.45pm, they would have heard Madeleine crying, and realised it stopped once they entered the apartment via the patio door. The parents heard nothing, no crying daughters or son on any of the evenings during their holiday - except for a remark which Madeleine is supposed to have come up with at breakfast time on the morning of Thursday 3rd May 2007, where Madeleine asked her parents why they did not come when she and Sean were crying last night?

The McCann couple and their Friend's are devious, and appear to have a frequent habit of trying to deliberately displace certain timed events in order to disguise any involvement on their part. I don't for one moment believe that Madeleine made any mention of her crying to either parent on either Wednesday 2nd May 2007, or Thursday 3rd May 2007, I think that when they discovered Madeleine dead inside apartment 5A on the morning of Wednesday 2nd May 2007, that the nature of her death was such that it was instantly noticeable that she had suffered immense pain both physically and emotionally, and that she must have been screaming or crying. Hence, why they built the tale of Madeleine having complained to them about their absence from the apartment at the time she was being abused. The parents weren't there because they were down the road at Chaplin's bar..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4896 on: December 27, 2019, 12:31:PM »
I don't for one moment believe that Madeleine made any mention of her crying to either parent on either Wednesday 2nd May 2007, or Thursday 3rd May 2007, I think that when they discovered Madeleine dead inside apartment 5A on the morning of Wednesday 2nd May 2007, that the nature of her death was such that it was instantly noticeable that she had suffered immense pain both physically and emotionally, and that she must have been screaming or crying. Hence, why they built the tale of Madeleine having complained to them about their absence from the apartment at the time she was being abused. The parents weren't there because they were down the road at Chaplin's bar..

So, who entered apartment 5A (the McCann apartment) at around 10.30pm on the evening Tuesday 1st May 2007, remaining there until about 11.45pm?

It wasn't the McCann parents, that's for sure...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4897 on: December 27, 2019, 02:09:PM »
So, who entered apartment 5A (the McCann apartment) at around 10.30pm on the evening Tuesday 1st May 2007, remaining there until about 11.45pm?

It wasn't the McCann parents, that's for sure...

Let's assume that the McCann entourage were creatures of habit, insofar as the evening meal at the tapas bar was concerned - meal served at say 9pm,  drinking at tapas bar, etc, etc, etc, takes the time to around 10pm..

Seems to me that by and large the lot of 'em were on their way back to their respective apartments somewhere between 10 - 10.30pm each evening. Except for the evenings Tuesday 1st May 2007, because on this particular evening they went from the Ocean Club down the road in the direction of the beach and entered Chaplin's bar near to the local church and the all important derelict building (No. 5 Ave Dos Pescadores), they were drinking in Chaplin's bar until gone midnight. There was no way they could claim to be within a stones throw of their apartment, they were 10 - 15 minutes away and could not even see any of the Ocean club apartment blocks on the skyline from where they were...

It seems to me, that somebody or other, either a member or members of their group, or members of Mark Warner staff, or a local sex offender or two, realised the significance of the distance between Chaplin's bar and apartment 5A, someone who knew that the McCann parents always left unlocked the poolside patio door of apartment 5A. I am convinced that by the time the McCann party arrived at Chaplin's bar, that the suspect or suspects were entering apartment 5A with Madeleine and her brother and sister at their mercy. It might have involved a lookout being inside Chaplin's bar keeping close tabs on the McCann couple and their companions. Maybe the lookout would ring his / her accomplice(s) on a mobile phone, or from a nearby public telephone box had the McCann parents left Chaplin's bar early...

Well, according to Mrs Fenn, nobody checked on the McCann children inside apartment 5A for the whole of the period 10.30 - 11.45pm, on that particular evening (so much for the McCanns claiming they did 15 minute to half hourly checks on their own apartment). - it may be worthwhile the police checking phone records for this period..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4898 on: December 27, 2019, 02:23:PM »
One thing nobody should overlook, and that is with the metal shutter of apartment 5A's patio door locked in its zero ground position, nobody would have been able to enter the apartment via the glass patio door behind the shutter. The shutter to the patio door could not be raised and or lowered from outside the apartment. The occupants of apartment 5A would have been able to lower the external blind on the outside of the patio door, and leave the patio door unlocked - however,  no-one on the outside would be able to raise it and enter the premises. In other words it would be pointless locking the metal shutter to the patio door and leaving the patio door unlocked if you were intending to use the patio door as a means of entering the apartment..Furthermore, if you left the patio door on the poolside of the building unlocked, with the metal shutter raised up into its unlocked position, it would be pointless leaving apartment 5A by means of the normal door on the road side of the building which would require it to be locked with a key. You would simply leave the apartment by the patio door and its metal shutter which you have left unlocked for ease of access and exit...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4899 on: December 27, 2019, 06:20:PM »
It's looking more and more likely that the parents and some of their companions faked the abduction claim from apartment 5A, somewhere between 9pm and 10pm, on the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007. In order to pull off this deception, the McCanns used the services of Sergey Malinka to initially make contact with the PJ, and arranging it to look like an associate of the abductors would only deal with Gerald McCann, to negotiate the safe return of his daughter Madeleine for a sum of 2,000 Euro's...

Gerald McCann was in direct contact with somebody who allegedly knew the whereabouts of Madeleine from as early as 7th May 2007, or even earlier - this conversation  took place via one of his three mobile phones belonging to him -it was all bogus, a put on to make people believe that Madeleine had really been abducted, when she wasn't.

The PJ sussed out the McCanns and their companions for faking Madeleines abduction, almost two days or so after she died in apartment 5A...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4900 on: December 27, 2019, 06:31:PM »
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The PJ sussed out the McCanns and their companions for faking Madeleines abduction, almost two days or so after she died in apartment 5A...

The McCanns and some of their companions knew that when it came down to Madeleine having gone missing, let's say by 10pm on Thursday 3rd May 2007, that they were going to push for an investigation involving the abduction of their daughter. The alert by Kate McCann at 10pm, is truly astonishing considering that she was not even present at the tapas bar restuarant by at least two different eye witness accounts to enable her to leave there and go and do her 10pm check of the family apartment. Everyone had left there dining tables by 9.30pm, and only Diane Webster returned to the restuarant tables at about 9.45pm in order to keep her eye on personal items belonging to the McCanns and their companions - so how could Kate McCann get up from a dining table at the tapas restuarant at 10pm in order for her to discover that Madeleine had been 'taken' by 'them' or 'they' when she must have been back inside apartment 5A, some time soon after Mathew Oldfield alerted them that Madeleine was missing from the apartment at the time of his 9pm check (of which at one time or another he has given two different versions of exactly how he conducted his 9pm check of 5A, in another account he had entered the McCann apartment via the patio door on the poolside of the building during his 9pm check). It may also not come as a surprise to learn that he also gave two conflicting versions regarding how he carried out a further check of apartment 5A at around 9.30pm...

On the occasion he was contracted to check the McCann apartment at 9pm, on the one hand he stated that he did not enter the McCann apartment but listened outside the bedroom window shutter, and because he heard no noises or any movement he assumed that all was well with the three children of the McCanns. He duly returned to the tapas restuarant and informed the McCann parents that 'all was well' back at their apartment. How Gerald McCann had reacted to the information provided by Mathew Oldfield, by leaving the restuarant immediately to go and do a check of his apartment himself leaving Mathew Oldfield feeling that something he had done or said, had given him the impression that Gerald McCann was not at best pleased with him. On a second occasion, at 9.30pm Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien left the tapas restuarant intending to do a check of their own apartments, as well as a contracted check of the McCann apartment. On this occasion Mathew Oldfield claimed that he did not enter apartment 5A at all, but rather that he had listened intently outside the patio door on the poolside verandah of apartment 5A. Having said that, he gave a contradictory account by claiming that he had entered apartment 5A via the patio door. On the basis of his first 9.30pm check of the McCann apartment and he having heard no noises he left assuming all was well inside. Whereas, in his second version of his 9.30pm check at 5A, he had gone as far as the children's bedroom door and listened at the bedroom door. He was supposedly satisfied that all was well, beyond the bedroom door. From there how he had gone to Russell O'Brien's apartment only to discover that the child of O'Brien and Jane Tanner was unwell and that O'Brien was remaining at his apartment to care and tend to his sick daughter. Mathew Oldfield thus returned to the tapas restuarant and is supposed to have made mention of two significant matters to all those allegedly present - (1) that the McCann apartment had been checked and all was well there, and (2) - that t Russell O'Brien was remaining back at the O'Brien / Jane Tanner apartment looking after his sick daughter. Well, how could he have returned to the tapas restuarant after doing his 9.30pm check of his own and the McCann apartment, as well as visit Russell O'Brien in his apartment, if there was no-one present at or in the restuarant after 9.30pm, because according to a restuarant table waiter or barman, the dining tables where the McCann entourage had been dining was completely deserted with none of the group present there at all by 9.30pm on that Thursday 3rd May 2007, they had all to a man and woman fled from the restuarant at about the same time that Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien had gone to do their 9.30pm checks...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4901 on: December 27, 2019, 06:42:PM »
I don't believe that Kate McCann rushed back to the tapas bar restuarant to alert everyone that Madeleine had been taken, that she was gone, and that 'they' had taken her - first of all she doesn't claim to have seen anyone to remotely qualify her to refer to any would be abductor as 'them' or 'they'. Additionally I don't believe that Kate McCann left her two youngest children back at apartment 5A, when there were abductors abducting children, who had abducted Madeleine already...

Kate McCann never rushed back to the tapas bar restuarant to raise the alarm at about 10pm, because the alarm had already been raised by Mathew Oldfield at 9pm, and at approximately 9.15pm a couple already had the knowledge that Madeleine had gone missing from the McCanns apartment (5A) - seems like quite a few different people had knowledge of Madeleine having been taken long before Kate McCann raised the alarm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4902 on: December 27, 2019, 08:43:PM »
I have a strong hunch that the McCann doctors sedated the twins Thursday Evening 3rd May 2007, so that when they eventually alerted to the fact that Madeleine had gone missing, they would sleep right through the night without being disturbed. There was no need to sedate Madeleine because she died in the apartment late Tuesday 1st May 2007 / early morning Wednesday 2nd May 2007. I believe that had Madeleines body been recovered or found early on, it would have been discovered that she had not been sedated at all. That's why they had to dispose of the Madeleine's  body,  because if the PJ had recovered Madeleine's body it would have been established that she had not been sedated prior to her death, and because the twins had been sedated, it would have opened up a can of worms. The sedating of the twins was a safe guard designed so that the parents could pretend that Madeleine was still alive on Thursday 3rd May 2007, when she wasn't. Ocean club staff became implicated in the matter because of the sail boat accident when Madeleine fell off a boat into the sea and almost drowned - this accident happened on the same date (evening) when Madeleine was abused in apartment 5A whilst the McCann parents were living it up at Chaplin's bar. The McCann parents put their three children at risk of harm when they visited Chaplin's bar on the evening of Tuesday 1st May 2007, they did not come back to apartment 5A when Sean and Madeleine were crying, they were crying because of abuse by an intruder...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4903 on: December 28, 2019, 12:19:PM »

On the occasion he was contracted to check the McCann apartment at 9pm, on the one hand he stated that he did not enter the McCann apartment but listened outside the bedroom window shutter, and because he heard no noises or any movement he assumed that all was well with the three children of the McCanns. He duly returned to the tapas restuarant and informed the McCann parents that 'all was well' back at their apartment. How Gerald McCann had reacted to the information provided by Mathew Oldfield, by leaving the restuarant immediately to go and do a check of his apartment himself leaving Mathew Oldfield feeling that something he had done or said, had given him the impression that Gerald McCann was not at best pleased with him. On a second occasion, at 9.30pm Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien left the tapas restuarant intending to do a check of their own apartments, as well as a contracted check of the McCann apartment. On this occasion Mathew Oldfield claimed that he did not enter apartment 5A at all, but rather that he had listened intently outside the patio door on the poolside verandah of apartment 5A. Having said that, he gave a contradictory account by claiming that he had entered apartment 5A via the patio door. On the basis of his first 9.30pm check of the McCann apartment and he having heard no noises he left assuming all was well inside. Whereas, in his second version of his 9.30pm check at 5A, he had gone as far as the children's bedroom door and listened at the bedroom door. He was supposedly satisfied that all was well, beyond the bedroom door.

The obvious question which needs to be asked, at this point, is that if during his 9.30pm check of the McCann apartment, he had either listened from a position outside the patio door of apartment 5A, or indeed, based on the other version of the similar timed events (9.30pm) where he had ventured into the apartment but only as far as the children's bedroom door, and he was satisfied that all was well in there, what explanation is given or offered from the fact that at the time of his 9pm check of the same apartment in a conflicting version of that earlier check he said that Madeleine had vanished and was not inside any other room inside the apartment?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4904 on: December 28, 2019, 12:29:PM »
    The obvious question which needs to be asked, at this point, is that if during his 9.30pm check of the McCann apartment, he had either listened from a position outside the patio door of apartment 5A, or indeed, based on the other version of the similar timed events (9.30pm) where he had ventured into the apartment but only as far as the children's bedroom door, and he was satisfied that all was well in there, what explanation is given or offered from the fact that at the time of his 9pm check of the same apartment in a conflicting version of that earlier check he said that Madeleine had vanished and was not inside any other room inside the apartment?

    Where could Madeleine have been at the time of one version of Mathew Oldfields (9pm) account (vanished and nowhere at all inside the McCann apartment), only to supposedly still technically 'be'  present in her bed on the first two versions of his 9.30pm check?[/list]
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