The case of Madeleine McCann

[mike tesko]

A child in the apartment (5A) beneath hers crying continuously, from around 10.15pm to 11.45pm...

Who was that child?

Madeleine?   

Did Mrs Fenn hear the patio door of apartment 5A below slide  open from the outside, or the inside. And, did the continuous crying of the child cease when a parent returned to 5A, or was it a case of, whoever had been sexually abusing Madeleine, killed her off just before he or they left the McCann apartment?

Anyone outside the patio door of apartment 5A, would slide the patio door from their left to their right, whereas a person on the inside of the apartment, would slide open the very same patio door from right to left..

How could Mrs Fenn tell or know that the sliding patio door of apartment 5A (below), had been opened by someone from outside, or inside the apartment?

[Steve_uk]

Things are becoming much more clearer by the moment...

I do think the Tapas Seven may have covered up they did not always check on their children as frequently as they claimed (though the idea of leaving any two-year-old twins alone beggars belief), but I'm not sure the conspiracy theory extends to the dimensions you suggest Mike.

[mike tesko]

I do think the Tapas Seven may have covered up they did not always check on their children as frequently as they claimed (though the idea of leaving any two-year-old twins alone beggars belief), but I'm not sure the conspiracy theory extends to the dimensions you suggest Mike.

Fact is often stranger than fiction. What I don't yet  understand, is how any member of the so called tapas 9 group could still have been sat at their dining tables from 9.30pm, onward (with the exception of Diane Webster who returned from wherever at 9.45pm), when a member of staff (waiter) has gone on record as saying that at 9.30pm, none of the McCann contingency were sat at their respective dining tables, and another waiter has gone on record as saying that at 9.45pm, there was only a middle aged woman sat on her own at the tables which were booked to the McCann group of 9 adults..

So, where did everyone disappear to at 9.30pm (including Diane Webster)?

Where was Gerald McCann, Kate McCann, Mathew Oldfield, Rachel Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, Jane Tanner, David Payne and  anybody else, because its a nailed on certainty that none of them were at the tapas bar restuarant by or at  9.30pm? And if Diane Webster was the only person at the dining tables allocated to the group of friends from 9.45pm, and thereafter, how could Kate McCann have left that restuarant anytime after 9.45 pm, to go and do her check of apartment 5A enabling her to supposedly discover that Madeleine was not there and then rush back to the tapas bar to alert to everyone who was not even there, that Madeleine had been taken..

Their friends (with the exception of Diane Webster) were never present at the tapas bar, to enable Kate McCann to return there and inform everyone that Madeleine was gone, and that 'they' had taken her?

Who are 'they'?

How come other people who were present in the tapas bar by 9.15pm, were talking excitedly about a child who had gone missing from a guests apartment? How come Mathew Oldfield knew about 'the same thing' from as early as 9pm?

If people who have told blatant lies about this or that have to be treated as though some sort of a conspiracy must have occurred, or be happening, then so be it. Liars, and  Conspirators, or whatever, a little child is gone forever, and somebody is accountable...

[mike tesko]

How could Mrs Fenn tell or know that the sliding patio door of apartment 5A (below), had been opened by someone from outside, or inside the apartment?

Maybe, 11.45pm on the evening of 1st May 2007, (Mrs Fenns account) is when Madeleine actually died, or was killed (or taken)..

[mike tesko]

I can't bring myself to accept that Gerald McCann simply carried off the body of his daughter in his arms from the bushes or shrubs in the poolside garden of apartment 5A. But, he was the person seen by the Smith contingent on his way carrying his daughters body at around 10pm on the evening 3rd May 2007...

He wasn't back at the tapas bar restuarant at that time, in fact none of the others were, with the exception of Diane Webster who had been absent from there at 9.30pm, along with everyone else, but who returned there by 9.45pm, in the role / capacity of safe guarding the other group members personal belongings which had been left behind when everyone left their booked dining tables by 9.30pm (prompt)...

Where, did everyone (including Diane Webster) disappear to at 9.30pm?

How could Mathew Oldfield return to the tapas bar after his, and Russell O'Brien's 9.30pm, apartment checks, to inform everyone or anyone, when in fact there was no - one to tell anything to at the tapas bar restuarant, other than Diane Webster from 9.45pm, onward?

Why would Diane Webster need to be told anything about the reason why Russell O'Brien had not returned to the tapas bar because his daughter was sick, or unwell, if she (Diane Webster) was the only person present there at the groups dining table from around 9.45pm, onward?

Where was Jane Tanner at this time (9.45pm)?

One certain fact looms large in my mind, and that is / was, that both Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner were not present at their dining table at any stage, either individually, or together at any stage from 9.30pm, onward...

They are liars...

[Steve_uk]

I can't bring myself to accept that Gerald McCann simply carried off the body of his daughter in his arms from the bushes or shrubs in the poolside garden of apartment 5A. But, he was the person seen by the Smith contingent on his way carrying his daughters body at around 10pm on the evening 3rd May 2007...

He wasn't back at the tapas bar restuarant at that time, in fact none of the others were, with the exception of Diane Webster who had been absent from there at 9.30pm, along with everyone else, but who returned there by 9.45pm, in the role / capacity of safe guarding the other group members personal belongings which had been left behind when everyone left their booked dining tables by 9.30pm (prompt)...

Where, did everyone (including Diane Webster) disappear to at 9.30pm?

How could Mathew Oldfield return to the tapas bar after his, and Russell O'Brien's 9.30pm, apartment checks, to inform everyone or anyone, when in fact there was no - one to tell anything to at the tapas bar restuarant, other than Diane Webster from 9.45pm, onward?

Why would Diane Webster need to be told anything about the reason why Russell O'Brien had not returned to the tapas bar because his daughter was sick, or unwell, if she (Diane Webster) was the only person present there at the groups dining table from around 9.45pm, onward?

Where was Jane Tanner at this time (9.45pm)?

One certain fact looms large in my mind, and that is / was, that both Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner were not present at their dining table at any stage, either individfually, or together at any stage from 9.30pm, onward...

They are liars...

They could have seen Doctor Julian Totman carrying his own daughter away from the creche and who came forward to police but never heard anything further. It doesn't make sense that cadaveric odour was detected by sniffer dogs in the apartment if Maddie is alive at all at his point. The Smiths couldn't positively identify anyone immediately after their sighting, though curiously the father becomes surer after the passage of time that it was Gerry McCann he saw.

[mike tesko]

They could have seen Doctor Julian Totman carrying his own daughter away from the creche  Not if the creche was in the vicinity of the main Ocean club reception like Scotland yard are inviting everyone to believe..and who came forward to police but never heard anything further. it could have been Totman if he used the creche close to apartment block 5. In that scenario, he would have been walking in the right direction  It doesn't make sense that cadaveric odour was detected by sniffer dogs in the apartment if Maddie is alive at all at his point. But that's just it - she died before the evening 3rd May 2007The Smiths couldn't positively identify anyone immediately after their sighting, though curiously the father becomes surer after the passage of time that it was Gerry McCann he saw. because it was Gerald McCann that he saw, McCann was not back at the tapas bar restuarant at the same time, there was nobody other than Diane Webster there...

[mike tesko]

I would now like to take the opportunity to deal with the matter of a note being written in a reception register, which stated that the McCanns and their friends wanted to book specific tables in the tapas bar restuarant because families were leaving young children alone in their respective apartments whilst parents went to the restuarant for an evening meal and a drink or two. It was apparently recorded in that register that from their dining tables, it would allow parents to keep an eye on the apartments...

[mike tesko]

I would now like to take the opportunity to deal with the matter of a note being written in a reception register, which stated that the McCanns and their friends wanted to book specific tables in the tapas bar restuarant because families were leaving young children alone in their respective apartments whilst parents went to the restuarant for an evening meal and a drink or two. It was apparently recorded in that register that from their dining tables, it would allow parents to keep an eye on the apartments...

This is being relied upon, to imply that Madeleine McCanns disappearence may have come about because the aforementioned note in the reception register could have been read by Ocean Club staff and guests, who acted upon that information, and that it could have been an inside job of sorts..

[mike tesko]

However...

Placing such a reliance upon the note being recorded in the reception register, as being a potential explanation for why Madeleine may have been taken, kidnapped, or abducted, something else of great importance has thus far, as far as I know been overlooked or ignored, and this concerns the security of both the roadside door on one side of the apartment in block five, and the sliding patio door on the poolside of the same building, in relation to apartment 5A..

For example, the roadside door if locked and the occupants leave their apartment taking the door key with them, that anyone left inside the apartment, or as the case may be, that after the occupants left, that a person gained entry into the apartment by other means, it is a nailed on certainty that anyone inside that apartment with no access to the door key, that they could simply open the roadside door by a catch built into the door lock. It would simply be a case of the catch be operated on the lock, and they could leave the apartment  with little if any fuss.

In other words, you wouldn't need a key to the roadside door lock to leave the building from inside the premises, you would only need a door key to that lock if you were outside intending to get into the apartment by the external roadside door...

Alternatively..

[mike tesko]

However...

Placing such a reliance upon the note being recorded in the reception register, as being a potential explanation for why Madeleine may have been taken, kidnapped, or abducted, something else of great importance has thus far, as far as I know been overlooked or ignored, and this concerns the security of both the roadside door on one side of the apartment in block five, and the sliding patio door on the poolside of the same building, in relation to apartment 5A..

For example, the roadside door if locked and the occupants leave their apartment taking the door key with them, that anyone left inside the apartment, or as the case may be, that after the occupants left, that a person gained entry into the apartment by other means, it is a nailed on certainty that anyone inside that apartment with no access to the door key, that they could simply open the roadside door by a catch built into the door lock. It would simply be a case of the catch be operated on the lock, and they could leave the apartment  with little if any fuss.

In other words, you wouldn't need a key to the roadside door lock to leave the building from inside the premises, you would only need a door key to that lock if you were outside intending to get into the apartment by the external roadside door...

Alternatively..

Dealing with the sliding patio door on the poolside of apartment 5A, if the patio door had been left unlocked, this might contribute to an entry into the premises, by one person, or another, let's say after the occupants had left the premises and locking the roadside door with a key which they kept on their person afterwards. Once any uninvited intruder type character entered the apartment by the unlocked patio door, he or she, or they could have simply exited the premises by the same sliding, unlocked patio door, or as the case may be, exit via the roadside door simply by them turning the catch on the door lock..

Additionally, such an uninvited intruder could also leave the premises via a bedroom window...

[mike tesko]

Dealing specifically with the security of the sliding patio door on the poolside of apartment 5A. There is no door key. Only a catch which enables occupants of the property to operate this catch, in order to either unlock it, or lock it. But this can only be done by a person on the inside of the premises, to manipulate. Additionally, on the outside surface of the sliding patio door is guarded by a metal window shutter, which can be raised or lowered. A lever situated inside the apartment on the wall to one side of the patio door is the only way that the position of the metal patio door shutter can be operated..

With this in mind, the occupants of apartment 5A, could not lower the metal shutter and leave the patio door unlocked so that anyone approaching the unlocked sliding patio door could enter the apartment because the metal shutter was fixed in its locked downward position. They would not be able to raise the patio door shutter, irrespective of whether or not the occupants of the apartment had left the door locked, or unlocked. This is because someone on the outside of the patio door has no way of raising the shutter because the lever for raising it, was securely tucked away on the inside wall of the room beyond the door...

[mike tesko]

The only way any intruder could gain access to apartment 5A, if the occupants had left the sliding patio door open, prior to leaving the premises, would be if the same occupants had left the patio door shutter on the poolside of the apartment raised up in its unlocked position...

[mike tesko]

The only way any intruder could gain access to apartment 5A, if the occupants had left the sliding patio door open, prior to leaving the premises, would be if the same occupants had left the patio door shutter on the poolside of the apartment raised up in its unlocked position...

Now, it is on record that the McCann parents have confirmed that they had left the patio door open so that when checks were made during the course of the evening, a parent or a friend could enter apartment 5A, needing no key because there are no keys to the patio door only a catch on an inside room wall..

If this were true, the occupants of apartment 5A must have left the patio door on the poolside of the premises unlocked, and the corresponding metal shutter raised up leaving the premises insecure. As a result, any passerby who sees the metal shutter at the patio door raised in its up position, might correctly suspect that the patio door in question was either locked off, or left open...

[mike tesko]

If this were true, the occupants of apartment 5A must have left the patio door on the poolside of the premises unlocked, and the corresponding metal shutter raised up leaving the premises insecure. As a result, any passerby who sees the metal shutter at the patio door raised in its up position, might correctly suspect that the patio door in question was either locked off, or left open...

Under such circumstances, why has it been made so important that notes were recorded in a reception register that the McCanns and friends were leaving their children alone in their respective apartments whilst they wined and dined every evening at the nearby tapas bar. Rather significantly, there was no mention in the note in the reception register, that the McCanns or any of their friends, were placing their children at risk by leaving an apartment door  deliberately and recklessly unlocked and insecure...

If anyone entered the apartment 5A via the unlocked sliding patio door on the poolside of the premises, it was because the McCànn parents had deliberately left the patio door unlocked placing their three young children at a severe risk of coming to harm...