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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4560 on: November 16, 2019, 10:09:AM »
He was not back at the Tapas restuarant bar after 9.05pm at any stage, and he wasn't there when Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien  left the Tapas bar to supposedly do the 9.30pm checks including supposedly checking on the McCann apartment because according to a waiter or bar man there was no-one present at the tables they had booked for their evening meal.This proceeded to be the case by 9.45pm, albeit by that time,  a solitary middle aged lady was sat at one of the aforementioned tables on duty keeping an eye on property left insitu by members of the Tapas 9 group as a result of them all dashing off back to their apartments at around and from 9.30pm...

For half an hour, between 9.30pm and 10pm, neither Kate McCann, Gerald McCann, Mathew Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, Jane Tanner, or David Payne were not present in the Tapas restaurant, and therefore, Kate McCann could not have left there at 10pm to go and discover Madeleine. MISSING. She could not have run back to the Tapas bar to alert everybody else there that Madeleine was missing because there was no-one there for her to break the news too..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4561 on: November 16, 2019, 10:13:AM »

For half an hour, between 9.30pm and 10pm, neither Kate McCann, Gerald McCann, Mathew Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, Jane Tanner, or David Payne were not present in the Tapas restaurant, and therefore, Kate McCann could not have left there at 10pm to go and discover Madeleine. MISSING. She could not have run back to the Tapas bar to alert everybody else there that Madeleine was missing because there was no-one there for her to break the news too..

He could not be in two different places both at the same time - he was the person seen by the Smith family contingent in the street near to 'LUZDOC medical centre at about 10pm, until after on his way to dispose of his daughters body...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4562 on: November 16, 2019, 04:40:PM »
He could not be in two different places both at the same time - he was the person seen by the Smith family contingent in the street near to 'LUZDOC medical centre at about 10pm, until after on his way to dispose of his daughters body...

Jane Tanner, and other group members have given Gerald McCann a false alibi by claiming that he was present in the Tapas bar restaurant at all times other than when he dashed off to do his own check of the McCann apartment at 9.05pm (returning to the Tapas restaurant at about 9.20pm), when all along he had returned to his apartment needing to move Madeleine's body which almost certainly  had been concealed in the McCann parents bedroom wardrobe. Instead of returning to the Tapas restaurant after he had done an apartment check he removed Madeleine's body and hid it temporarily amongst the shrubbery and bushes of the garden belonging to the McCann  apartment, until such time when the coast was clear and then he gathered up Madeleine's body and headed down towards the beach where enroute he subsequently had a brief encounter with the Smith contingency ..

Whilst ever it is maintained that Gerald McCann returned to the Tapas restaurant after his 9. 05pm check and he keeps maintaining that he was at the restaurant for the rest of the time that evening he could not possibly be suspected of playing any part in the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann. How could he possibly have been involved in her disappearence when he was present at the restaurant bar with friends who have all given him an alibi

But he wasn't there, and he never returned to there, he was too busy getting Madeleine's body out of the.McCann apartment.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4563 on: November 16, 2019, 05:11:PM »
Jane Tanner, and other group members have given Gerald McCann a false alibi by claiming that he was present in the Tapas bar restaurant at all times other than when he dashed off to do his own check of the McCann apartment at 9.05pm (returning to the Tapas restaurant at about 9.20pm), when all along he had returned to his apartment needing to move Madeleine's body which almost certainly  had been concealed in the McCann parents bedroom wardrobe. Instead of returning to the Tapas restaurant after he had done an apartment check he removed Madeleine's body and hid it temporarily amongst the shrubbery and bushes of the garden belonging to the McCann  apartment, until such time when the coast was clear and then he gathered up Madeleine's body and headed down towards the beach where enroute he subsequently had a brief encounter with the Smith contingency ..

Whilst ever it is maintained that Gerald McCann returned to the Tapas restaurant after his 9. 05pm check and he keeps maintaining that he was at the restaurant for the rest of the time that evening he could not possibly be suspected of playing any part in the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann. How could he possibly have been involved in her disappearence when he was present at the restaurant bar with friends who have all given him an alibi

But he wasn't there, and he never returned to there, he was too busy getting Madeleine's body out of the.McCann apartment.

Bear in mind the following..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4564 on: November 16, 2019, 05:21:PM »
Bear in mind the following..

Why did everyone leave the Tapas restuarant bar at the same time that Kate McCann Rose to go and do a check of her apartment, if her husband had only just returned from there 10 minutes earlier (9.20pm), and in any event only for Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien to intervene so conveniently and offering to do Kates 9.30pm check instead, then and to make matters even more interesting why did Kate McCann leave the Tapas restuarant at 9. 30pm along with everybody else by that stage?

Where did everyone disappear to by 9.30pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4565 on: November 16, 2019, 05:30:PM »

Where did everyone disappear to by 9.30pm...

And,  if everyone had disappeared from the restuarant dining tables by 9. 30pm,  then how could Mathew Oldfield return to the Tapas restaurant after completing his check of apartment 5A to inform everybody (who was not there),  that the reason why Russell O'Brien had not returned to the restuarant was because one of his daughters was sick so he was staying back at his apartment and caring for her needs. But, who was Mathew  Oldfield talking to if there was no -one there at the Tapas restaurant to listen to him..

When did everyone return to the Tapas bar restuarant in order for them all to be present so that Kate McCann could immediately leave again only to discover Madeleine was gone, and that she was missing, and that she had been taken or abducted?

It doesn't make any sense...

Everyone leaves the restuarant  by 9.30pm, just as Kate decides to do a 9.30pm, check of apartment 5A, then Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien step in volunteering to do Kate McCann's 9.30pm check. So where did Kate disappear to,  along with everyone else at the same time by 9.30pm? Then by 9.45pm a middle aged member of the Tapas 9 group,  returns to guard personal belongings of the other group members, and so how long was David Paynes mother sat there after 9.45pm, looking after everybodies possessions, 1 minute,  2 minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, or 20 minutes...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4566 on: November 17, 2019, 11:38:PM »
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Everyone leaves the restuarant  by 9.30pm, just as Kate decides to do a 9.30pm, check of apartment 5A, then Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien step in volunteering to do Kate McCann's 9.30pm check. So where did Kate disappear to,  along with everyone else at the same time by 9.30pm? Then by 9.45pm a middle aged member of the Tapas 9 group,  returns to guard personal belongings of the other group members, and so how long was David Paynes mother sat there after 9.45pm, looking after everybodies possessions, 1 minute,  2 minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, or 20 minutes...

Where was Gerald McCann between 9.30pm and 10pm?

Well according to a barman and a waiter, a there was nobody at all at their dining table at 9.30pm, and 15 minutes later only a middle aged lady looking after the personal possessions of the other group members..

Why is it, that not one single member of the so called Tapas 9 group, makes any mention of everyone having abandoned their respective dining tables by 9.30pm?

Where did everyone go?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4567 on: November 17, 2019, 11:50:PM »

Why is it, that not one single member of the so called Tapas 9 group, makes any mention of everyone having abandoned their respective dining tables by 9.30pm?

Bearing this in mind, how could Mathew Oldfield have returned to the restaurant after his 9.30pm check of the McCann apartment and tell everyone present that the reason why Russell O'Brien had not returned with him was because his daughter was unwell and he had remained behind at his own apartment..

How long was Mathew Oldfield away from the restuarant when he checked his own apartment and the McCann apartment - well he hadn't returned by 9.45pm that's for sure, because there was only a middle aged lady guarding all the personal possessions of the other group members at the dining tables...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4568 on: November 18, 2019, 12:09:AM »

How long was Mathew Oldfield away from the restuarant when he checked his own apartment and the McCann apartment - well he hadn't returned by 9.45pm that's for sure, because there was only a middle aged lady guarding all the personal possessions of the other group members at the dining tables...
It surely must be the case, that everyone of the group must have been aware that Madeleine McCann was known to be missing by 9.30pm at the very latest, and that Mathew Oldfield knew this when he checked apartment 5A at 9pm. It's a racing certainty that by 9.05pm Gerald McCann had been told by Mathew Oldfield that Madeleine was not present by that stage in the McCann apartment. Furthermore, by 9.15pm a couple who were seated at a dining table in the restaurant were loudly discussing the fact that a child belonging to one of the Ocean club guests had gone missing from their apartment. How come then that it took Kate McCann until 10pm, before she alerted everyone to the fact that someone had taken Madeleine from their apartment whilst they were having an evening meal in the nearby Tapas restuarant?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4569 on: November 18, 2019, 12:22:AM »
How come then that it took Kate McCann until 10pm, before she alerted everyone to the fact that someone had taken Madeleine from their apartment whilst they were having an evening meal in the nearby Tapas restuarant?
There is a simple explanation for the delay in acknowledging that Madeleine was was gone or that she had been taken from the McCann apartment from 9pm onward.- this was because by that stage Madeleine's body was still present in the bedroom wardrobe. The body had to be removed first and foremost. Indeed, Gerald McCann set about doing precisely that, when at 9.05pm he removed Madeleine's body from the wardrobe in his bedroom and temporarily concealed it amongst shrubs / bushes in the garden belonging to apartment 5A..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4570 on: November 18, 2019, 12:28:AM »
There is a simple explanation for the delay in acknowledging that Madeleine was was gone or that she had been taken from the McCann apartment from 9pm onward.- this was because by that stage Madeleine's body was still present in the bedroom wardrobe. The body had to be removed first and foremost. Indeed, Gerald McCann set about doing precisely that, when at 9.05pm he removed Madeleine's body from the wardrobe in his bedroom and temporarily concealed it amongst shrubs / bushes in the garden belonging to apartment 5A..

These facts alone give a perfect insight into why Gerald McCann was the person seen by the Smith family on his way down to the coast line at 10pm. He wasn 't back in the restuarant at that time, he wasn' t in two places at the same time, and it was he who carried Madeleine away in his arms, and nobody else..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4571 on: November 18, 2019, 12:33:AM »
These facts alone give a perfect insight into why Gerald McCann was the person seen by the Smith family on his way down to the coast line at 10pm. He wasn 't back in the restuarant at that time, he wasn' t in two places at the same time, and it was he who carried Madeleine away in his arms, and nobody else..

It is known that shortly after 10pm that Gerald McCann made a couple of telephone calls using his mobile phone, and that he deleted the relevant information regarding these calls from his phones memory..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4572 on: November 18, 2019, 12:47:AM »
It is known that shortly after 10pm that Gerald McCann made a couple of telephone calls using his mobile phone, and that he deleted the relevant information regarding these calls from his phones memory..

One of these calls was to inform a person or persons that he had been looked at with suspicion  by members of a family in the vicinity of 'LUZDOC'  medical centre at about 10pm - this was the chief reason why the timing of the alert regarding Madeleine's disappearance had to be put forward to 10pm at the earliest, and why Kate McCann claimed she had discovered Madeleine  missing during a 10pm check, and how she had run back to the restuarant to alert Gerald McCann to the to that effect.

If Gerald McCann was at the Restuarant at 10pm,then it could not have been him who had been seen by the witnesses carrying Madeleine away at the same time. Kate McCann and the others introduced false timings for the events that evening for the purpose of giving Gerald McCann a false alibi..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4573 on: November 18, 2019, 01:00:AM »
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If Gerald McCann was at the Restuarant at 10pm,then it could not have been him who had been seen by the witnesses carrying Madeleine away at the same time. Kate McCann and the others introduced false timings for the events that evening for the purpose of giving Gerald McCann a false alibi..

It is on record, that Gerald McCann brazenly said something along the lines, that if Madeleine had died in their apartment in some sort of an accident and that they had got rid of her body, how had they disposed of the body that evening because they were in the company of many friends having dinner in the Tapas restuarant from about 8.30pm onwards that particular evening.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4574 on: November 18, 2019, 01:06:AM »
Gerald McCann claimed he was the last person in their group to see Madeleine alive and sleeping in her bed - this, he said was during his 9.05pm check of their apartment by him.
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