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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4215 on: June 29, 2019, 07:46:PM »
If it were proven that the McCann's had frequented Chaplin's I think public opinion would quickly turn against them, as it would have been impossible for them to claim they were simultaneously surveilling the apartment where their children resided. https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2014/10/23/the-mccanns-scandal-at-chaplins/

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4216 on: June 29, 2019, 11:05:PM »
If it were proven that the McCann's had frequented Chaplin's I think public opinion would quickly turn against them, as it would have been impossible for them to claim they were simultaneously surveilling the apartment where their children resided. https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2014/10/23/the-mccanns-scandal-at-chaplins/
The McCanns and their group visited Chaplin's bar on Tuesday 1st May 2007, after eating their evening meal at the tapas restaurant, booked for 8.45pm which usually ended by around 10pm each night.On most occasions one the meal had finished the tapas nine would drink at the restaurant bar, but on the evening of Tuesday 1st May 2007, they left the tapas restaurant and went down to Chaplin's bar and got drunk there. This was the same evening that Mrs Fenn witnessed a child crying for a period of about one hour and fifty teen minutes, when she also noted the time as being around 11.15pm when she heard the McCann patio door slide open, and the the crying child immediately stopped crying, and called out 'Daddy, daddy, daddy'..

Now Mrs Fenn was told by a friend of hers that the McCann group were drinking at Chaplin's bar at the time the child had started crying continually from about 10pm onwards. A barman at Chaplin's bar confirmed to the Portuguese police that on that evening (Tuesday, 1st May 2007) the McCanns and friends were drinking and making merry at the bar...

The way I see it, Jerry McCann was not the person who slid open the sliding patio door of their apartment, it was clearly someone else. I think it to be somewhat significant that the crying of the child terminated when the patio door of the McCann apartment was slid open, and a childs voice called out 'Daddy, daddy, daddy'.I believe that the child in question was Madeleine McCann, and that she didn't utter those words as a greeting to her father, but rather it was spoken because she was traumatised and frightened, in other words, it was a cry for help..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4217 on: June 30, 2019, 07:06:PM »
We have some amongst us who believe that the Portuguese police and the Metropolitan police know who killed Madeleine McCann, but that those responsible cannot be prosecuted because the McCann parents claimed that Madeleine was still alive and well by around 9pm on the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007, as verified during Gerry McCanns 9.05pm check of the McCann apartment on that particular evening...

The persons involved committed the abuse and murder against Madeleine during a one hour and fithteen minute period prior to midnight on Tuesday 1st May 2007. She was almost certainly already dead by the time the McCann parents returned to their apartment after midnight from a visit to Chaplins bar that same evening...

But, upon returning to their apartment, they failed to discover Madeleine's demise, until the breakfast time on Wednesday 2nd May 2007...




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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4218 on: June 30, 2019, 07:12:PM »
By that stage neither McCann parent knew when Madeleine had been sexually assaulted, or indeed the time of her death...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4219 on: June 30, 2019, 08:20:PM »
By that stage neither McCann parent knew when Madeleine had been sexually assalted, or indeed the time of her death...


However, the parents knew that they had been absent from their apartment on the previous evening from about 8pm until after midnight on the following day ( 1st / 2nd May 2007), and that up until then there had been no arrangements put into place to check in their apartment or their home alone children for a four hour period. It was this factor which caused the McCann parents to not report Madeleine's death as discovered by then at around breakfast time soon Wednesday 2nd May 2007...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4220 on: July 01, 2019, 07:09:AM »
At the bare minimum, the McCann parents are guilty of repeated child neglect, lying about the time they first knew that Madeleine was dead. As I say the McCann parents knew that Madeleine was dead by breakfast time Wednesday 2nd May 2007, and  instead of telling the truth, they falsely claim that Madeleine had still been alive at least until around about 9pm on the evening Thursday 3rd May 2007. But Madeleine was not taken or abducted from her bed on the evening of 3rd May 2007.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4221 on: July 01, 2019, 12:00:PM »
In addition, some of the other seven tapas group members knew that Madeleine had been involved in some sort of attack on Tuesday evening whilst they were on a jaunt at Chaplin's bar..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4222 on: July 01, 2019, 06:27:PM »
'Operation Grange' takes the view that the McCann parents are not being investigated in connection with the mysterious disappearance of their daughter. This is because in their original statements to Portugue police, they claimed that they knew nothing about the attack made upon Madeleine on the evening of Tuesday 1st May 2007. Instead, the parents mentioned something which Madeleine had mentioned to them at breakfast time, along the lines of why didn't you come when me and Sean were crying? Both Kate and Gerry apparently did not question her regarding what she mean't..

People are now saying that  the alleged crying overheard by Mrs Pamela Fenn between around 10pm until 11.15pm coming from the McCann apartment below, must have been the same incident which Madeleine alluded to at breakfast on Thursday 3rd May 2007, but this cannot be true because the crying child stopped crying when the parents returned to their apartment at around 11.15pm, followed by the child calling out the word, 'Daddy, daddy, daddy'...

Clearly, if this was the actual interpretation of  Mrs Fenns  account for evening of Tuesday 1st May 2007, displaced until breakfast time on Thursday 3rd May 2007, to be pondered is why would Madeleine say such a thing as 'Why didn't you come when me and Sean were crying?

Excuse me, but on Mrs Fenns account,  the child that had been crying constantly for about an hour and fithteen minutes, suddenly stopped crying one somebody slid the patio door open and the child who had been crying constantly,  suddenly stopped crying and then said 'Daddy, daddy, daddy'00
 

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4223 on: July 01, 2019, 07:09:PM »

Excuse me, but on Mrs Fenns account,  the child that had been crying constantly for about an hour and fithteen minutes, suddenly stopped crying one somebody slid the patio door open and the child who had been crying constantly,  suddenly stopped crying and then said 'Daddy, daddy, daddy'


If it had been the parents returning to their apartment at about 11.15pm, on either the 1st or the 2nd May 2007, there's no getting away from the fact that not only would Madeleine have welcomed her parents return, but also both parents would have also remembered and known why she had been crying - I find it hard to believe that the McCann parents (a) knew nothing about one of their children crying constantly for about one hour and fifthteen minutes on the evening of Tuesday 1st May 2007, or that (b) if there had been any crying at all by Madeleine on the evening Wednesday 2nd May 2007, alluded to by Madeleine at breakfast time on Thursday 3rd May 2007, then (c) how could Kate and Gerry McCann pretend to know nothing about such?

Everything points to the McCann couple deliberately trying to deceive regarding an incident when Madeleine must have been awake and crying in their absence from apartment 5A..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4224 on: July 01, 2019, 07:39:PM »


If it had been the parents returning to their apartment at about 11.15pm, on either the 1st or the 2nd May 2007, there's no getting away from the fact that not only would Madeleine have welcomed her parents return, but also both parents would have also remembered and known why she had been crying - I find it hard to believe that the McCann parents (a) knew nothing about one of their children crying constantly for about one hour and fifthteen minutes on the evening of Tuesday 1st May 2007, or that (b) if there had been any crying at all by Madeleine on the evening Wednesday 2nd May 2007, alluded to by Madeleine at breakfast time on Thursday 3rd May 2007, then (c) how could Kate and Gerry McCann pretend to know nothing about such?

Everything points to the McCann couple deliberately trying to deceive regarding an incident when Madeleine must have been awake and crying in their absence from apartment 5A..

In other words they were keeping their daughter alive, even though they knew she had died almost two days earlier...

It is this information which has prevented the Portuguese police, and now the Metropolitan police from arresting the people who may have been responsible for sexually abusing Madeleine, and then killing her, all because the McCann parents lied by claiming she was alive at a time when she was already dead...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4225 on: July 01, 2019, 07:49:PM »
This is why the remit of 'Operation Grange' ignores the McCann parents and the other 7 members of the tapas group. Privately, the Portuguese police and the Metropolitan police, know the part that the McCann parents and their friends played in the disposal of Madeleine's body. But they have had evidence and information which places three members of Warner staff, in telephone communication with one another in very close proximity to the McCann apartment on the occasion when Mrs Fenn witnessed the events of Tuesday 1st May 2007 evening. All three men are suspected of being responsible for a series of break ins, of apartments...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4226 on: July 01, 2019, 07:55:PM »
The McCanns know the identity of the people responsible for sexually abusing their daughter. But at the end of the day, it was the McCanns and other adult members of the group who faked an abduction, introducing s false timeline of events...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4227 on: July 01, 2019, 07:58:PM »
In Kate McCanns book, 'MADELEINE', she provides a chilling admission to the effect that..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4228 on: July 01, 2019, 08:38:PM »
In Kate McCanns book, 'MADELEINE', she provides a chilling admission to the effect that..

She acknowleged that she knew that Madeleines perfect little genitals being ripped apart, or words to that effect...

The only way she could have known about such things, was if she knew what had happened to Madeleine, and seen for herself...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4229 on: July 02, 2019, 08:22:AM »
The facts speak for themself - the McCann parents are responsible for misleading people into believing that Madeleine was alive and well throughout Wednesday 2nd and Thursday 3rd May 2007...

Problem with crèche records dated Wednesday 2nd May 2007

Problem with creche records dated Thursday 3rd May 2007

Problem with date when Madeleine attended kids sailing club

Problem with sequence of alleged events surrounding half hourly check by McCann parents and friends, of apartment 5A, and when exactly people were aware of Madeleines absence from the apartment
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