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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4050 on: April 05, 2019, 10:07:AM »
If only Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien left the tapas restaurant at 9.30pm, why wasn't the other four members of the three couples still sat there at the dining table?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4051 on: April 05, 2019, 10:08:AM »
If only Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien left the tapas restaurant at 9.30pm, why wasn't the other four members of the three couples still sat there at the dining table?

The other four members of that particular group being Kate and Gerry McCann, Jane Tanner, and Rachel Oldfield?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4052 on: April 05, 2019, 10:13:AM »
Remember that it was supposedly during the 9.30pm visit to check the apartments by Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien that the latter stayed behind at his own apartment because his daughter was being sick, and so Jane Tanner was supposedly still sat at the dining table from 9.30pm onwards, engaged in conversation with Kate McCann, and Rachel Oldfield...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4053 on: April 05, 2019, 10:17:AM »
Remember that it was supposedly during the 9.30pm visit to check the apartments by Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien that the latter stayed behind at his own apartment because his daughter was being sick, and so Jane Tanner was supposedly still sat at the dining table from 9.30pm onwards, engaged in conversation with Kate McCann, and Rachel Oldfield...

But, the simple facts are that from 9.30pm onwards, there was no-one sat at that dining table, until 9.45pm and that turned out to be Diane Webster who had presumably been sat at another table beforehand..

Why would Diane Webster leave her own table where she had been enjoying her evening meal at 9.45pm and go at sit at the vacated dining table where the three couples had sat during the evening meal?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4054 on: April 08, 2019, 01:45:PM »
There can be little doubt that team McCann moved the time when it was first noticed that Madeleine had gone missing from the McCann apartment by some 45 minutes, or so from the alert being raised at around 9.15pm, moved to just after 10pm, which created a window of opportunity, for everyone to get their stories together, and for the body of Madeleine to be disposed of out of the family apartment, masked behind the time frame deception...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4055 on: April 08, 2019, 01:56:PM »
There can be little doubt that team McCann moved the time when it was first noticed that Madeleine had gone missing from the McCann apartment by some 45 minutes, or so from the alert being raised at around 9.15pm, moved to just after 10pm, which created a window of opportunity, for everyone to get their stories together, and for the body of Madeleine to be disposed of out of the family apartment, masked behind the time frame deception...


Gerry McCann could not possibly have been sitting at the dining table throughout the half hour period between 9.30pm and 10pm, because according to the witness statements of three Ocean Club employees, the table at which the McCann parents ate their evening meal earlier, was completely vacated by 9.30pm, and the only tapas group member who ever returned to that vacated dining table, was one Diane Webster who was seen and spoken to by one member of staff at about 9.45pm She remained there alone until after 10pm - in the meantime, where was Gerry McCann and the other eight members of the so called tapas nine group?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4056 on: April 08, 2019, 02:03:PM »
Everybody but Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien should have remained behind at the tapas restaurant from 9.30pm, onwards, until around 10pm, when Kate McCann supposedly left to go and do her own check of the McCann apartment, only to supposedly discover Madeleine missing, dash back to the restaurant to raise the alarm, etc..


Kate McCann wasn't there at the tapas restuarant at any stage after 9.30pm, or before 10pm...

« Last Edit: April 08, 2019, 02:04:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4057 on: April 08, 2019, 02:08:PM »
Everybody but Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien should have remained behind at the tapas restaurant from 9.30pm, onwards, until around 10pm, when Kate McCann supposedly left to go and do her own check of the McCann apartment, only to supposedly discover Madeleine missing, dash back to the restaurant to raise the alarm, etc..


Kate McCann wasn't there at the tapas restuarant at any stage after 9.30pm, or before 10pm...

She didn't leave the tapas bar restaurant at about 10pm to go do her supposed check of the McCann apartment. She already knew that there was something wrong back at their apartment long before 9.30pm that evening..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4058 on: April 08, 2019, 02:14:PM »
Was it just a coincidence that the Carpenter couple left the tapas restaurant between 9.15pm - 9.30pm?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4059 on: April 08, 2019, 04:09:PM »
Was it just a coincidence that the Carpenter couple left the tapas restaurant between 9.15pm - 9.30pm?


Or, that An Ocean Executive reacted to a commotion raised by a couple at a dining table, who were talking excitedly about the fact that a child had gone missing from a guests apartment (9.15pm), and that the table at which the McCann couple and two other couples became completely vacated by 9.30pm?

Remember also, that Mrs Carpenter, overheard someone calling out the name, Madeleine, Madeleine, as she and her husband crossed over to the other side of the street in the vicinity of the McCann apartment, between 9.15pm - 9.30pm...


With this in mind, consider the claim that once Kate McCann had visited her apartment around 10pm, and discovered Madeleine gone, that upon returning to the restuarant to alert the others, how everyone ran back in the direction of the McCann apartment , followed by different people running around calling out Madeleines name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine'..

Maybe, the name calling mentioned by Mrs Carpenter, which she overheard as she and her husband were crossing the street close to the McCann apartment, was evidence of that / this? Did Mrs Carpenter inadvertently witness the aftermath of people knowing that Madeleine had gone missing between 9.15pm - 9.30pm, (half an hour or so before the official team Mccann alert that Madeleine hadn't been known to be missing until after 10pm)?


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4060 on: April 08, 2019, 04:17:PM »
Seems highly likely to me, that the couple who had caused a commotion at a table in the restaurant at about 9.15pm - 9.20pm, was the Carpenter couple?

Seems to me, also that Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien  left to go back to the apartment block at 9.20pm, and not 9.30pm. and that they went there in the knowledge that Madeleine was going to be reported missing, something they had known about by around 9.15pm that same evening...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4061 on: April 08, 2019, 04:25:PM »
Seems highly likely to me, that the couple who had caused a commotion at a table in the restaurant at about 9.15pm - 9.20pm, was the Carpenter couple?

Seems to me, also that Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien  left to go back to the apartment block at 9.20pm, and not 9.30pm. and that they went there in the knowledge that Madeleine was going to be reported missing, something they had known about by around 9.15pm that same evening...

There is every reason for believing that the other tapas nine group members also left the tapas restaurant shortly after Oldfield and O'Brien at 9.20pm. Hence, why by 9.30pm the dinner table at which the McCann parents and two other couples had eaten their evening meals, earlier - The Carpenter couple must have left after everyone by about 9.30pm, so that Mrs Carpenter could overhear one of the McCann party calling out Madeleine's name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine' Helping to establish that the alert concerning Madeleine's disappearance, had occurred 30 minutes / 45 minutes before 10pm...


Since, why would anyone be calling out Madeleines name, half an hour or so (9.30pm) before Kate McCann raised the alarm after 10pm?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4062 on: April 08, 2019, 04:30:PM »
Since, why would anyone be calling out Madeleines name, half an hour or so (9.30pm) before Kate McCann raised the alarm after 10pm?



That half hour period which was gained by delaying the alert about Madeleine's demise until just after 10 pm, would have been ample time for Gerry McCann to enable himself to be the man seen by the Smith contingency down in the direction of the beach at 9.50pm...


Delaying the time of the alert, also makes it possible for either Mathew Oldfield, or Russell O'Brien to have been the man seen by the Smith Contingent...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4063 on: April 08, 2019, 04:39:PM »

Delaying the time of the alert, also makes it possible for either Mathew Oldfield, or Russell O'Brien to have been the man seen by the Smith Contingent...


 The role played by Russell O'Brien between the resturant and his apartment between around 9pm and 9.30pm, involving the claim that his daughter was being sick back in his apartment, which conveniently provided him with a reason for not returning to the restuarant once he left with Mathew Oldfield at 9.20pm...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4064 on: April 08, 2019, 04:47:PM »

 The role played by Russell O'Brien between the resturant and his apartment between around 9pm and 9.30pm, involving the claim that his daughter was being sick back in his apartment, which conveniently provided him with a reason for not returning to the restuarant once he left with Mathew Oldfield at 9.20pm...

I think the delaying of the alert with regards to Madeleine's demise at around 9.15pm, by making it after 10pm, and the fact that all the others with the exception of Oldfield and O'Brien were supposed to have been at the restaurant until after Kate did her 10pm check, even though evidence existed to indicate that from 9.30pm onward, the dinner table at which the McCann couple, and two other couples had been sitting earlier in the evening, had become completely vacated from that time. Russell O'Brien's excuse that he remained back at the apartment which he shared with Jane Tanner, because his child was being sick, during this manufactured half hour period, leads me to believe That O'Brien had something to do with shifting Madeleine's body out of apartment 5a, and that this took place after 9.20pm, when Oldfield and O'Brien went to do the 9.30pm check...
« Last Edit: April 08, 2019, 08:35:PM by mike tesko »
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