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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4020 on: April 04, 2019, 11:44:AM »
Who told the couple that Madeleine McCann had gone missing out of the McCann apartment before 9.15pm, that evening, to enable the couple to be discussing it openly, so that an Ocean Club executive overheard what they were talking about at that time?

There must have been someone else at the tapas restaurant by that stage (9.15pm) who had that knowledge...

Cops should be concentrating therefore on at least three different individuals who knew about Madeleine's disappearance from the McCann apartment by 9.15pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4021 on: April 04, 2019, 11:56:AM »
How come, if at least a minimum of three persons had this knowledge at the tapas restaurant at that (9.15pm) time, that none of the 9 adult members of the McCann entourage, who had all been present at the tapas bar prior to 9.15pm, didn't know that Madeleine had already gone missing from the McCann apartment any time sooner than just after 10pm, when Kate McCann carried out an imaginary check of their apartment only to discover that Madeleine was missing?

At least three other people at the tapas restaurant by 9.15pm, knew Madeleine had gone missing from the McCann apartment, in fact one couple were discussing it openly whilst sitting at one of the restaurant tables at that (9.15pm) stage...

We are now moving ever closer to finding out the truth, regarding what really did happen to Madeleine McCann, and why her body went missing from the McCann apartment...

If none of the official tapas 9 group members were involved, in Madeleine's demise, or the disappearance of her body from the family apartment at the Ocean Club, then it means that at least three other guests were present at the restaurant prior to and inclusive of the time of 9.15pm, that Madeleine McCann went Missing, long before the McCann parents did, or anyone else in the group!...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4022 on: April 04, 2019, 12:10:PM »
If we assume that the couple who were sat at one of the restaurant tables by 9.15pm who were talking about Madeleine McCann having gone missing from the McCann apartment by that stage - they must have got that information from someone else!

This begs the question, did such an informant speak to the couple directly, or in confidence, or did the mystery couple overhear others talking about the disappearance of Madeleine, and if so, who was the informant, and or, who was talking to whom at the time the 9.15pm couple, overheard what they overheard?

If such an informant did not speak directly to the 9.15pm, couple, is it possible that the couple themselves gleaned such information as s result of eavesdropping a conversation, or a series of conversations which included the involvement or participation of one or more of the tapas 9 group?

It is imperative that, (a) the Ocean Club Executive identifies the couple who were sat together at a table talking about it, (b) that police find out from them, how they had come about this information so soon in the evening, and whether someone talked to them directly about it, or whether the information was gleaned by eavesdropping the conversation or conversations of other people, and if so did such people belong to the tapas 9 group, (c) find out whether such an informant had themselves overheard someone else talking about the disappearance of Madeleine, and the circumstances in which that information had become circulated?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4023 on: April 04, 2019, 12:25:PM »
It becomes somewhat obvious that there were potentially several individuals present at the tapas restaurant that knew, or had been told, that Madeleine McCann had gone missing from the McCann apartment, and that this was common knowledge leading up to and inclusive of 9.15pm...

Now, if the purpose here is one of trying to get to the absolute truth of the matter - it's simples, init...

Check the guest list at the tapas restaurant up to 9.15pm, and eliminate one by one from being either, (a) the couple, or (b) the informant who was the source of the couples knowledge that Madeleine McCann had already been known to have disappeared from the McCann apartment before / by 9.15pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4024 on: April 04, 2019, 12:29:PM »
If the cops, pursue this matter, as I have outlined, sooner or later someone is going to say or have to admit how they knew what they had said was true! Because it was that person who was involved in the disappearance of the child...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4025 on: April 04, 2019, 01:07:PM »
If the cops, pursue this matter, as I have outlined, sooner or later someone is going to say or have to admit how they knew what they had said was true! Because it was that person who was involved in the disappearance of the child...

The other people involved in the chain of events, were told about it, overheard it being spoke about by someone else, and spoke about it themselves.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4026 on: April 04, 2019, 01:27:PM »
Executives statement extract:-

A few minutes later, when it was around 21H20, he heard some clamour, which made him leave toward the restaurant, a few meters away, and was then informed that a child had disappeared. Given the importance of this, believed that he should be in the surroundings. At that moment, he did not leave the area of the restaurant, and did not have the opportunity to check if the vehicle mentioned before was situated in the same location;

Later, at around 21:40, he left the restaurant passing through the same esplanade where moments before, he had seen the same table occupied by the three couples, empty, who had left in the meanwhile various items, principally clothing. He was told by his colleagues that the child who had disappeared was a child of one of those couples;
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4027 on: April 04, 2019, 01:43:PM »
Executives statement extract:-

Later, at around 21:40, he left the restaurant passing through the same esplanade where moments before, he had seen the same table occupied by the three couples, empty, who had left in the meanwhile various items, principally clothing. He was told by his colleagues that the child who had disappeared was a child of one of those couples;

Please note, that the McCann couple were amongst the three couples who had been dining together at 9.15pm at the restaurant, and that on This Executives account, who had all left the table in question by 9.40pm...

Another member of staff who saw the three couples sat at the same table at meal time, stated that by 9.30pm that this same table was completely vacated...

In a third account, another member of staff viewed the same table, at 9.45pm, confirming that there was only an elderly lady (Diane Webster) sat at that table...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4028 on: April 04, 2019, 01:48:PM »
Yet, based on the team McCann collection of statements, at least 8 of the 9 adult members were still sat at the dining table until around 10pm when Kate McCann got up to do the imaginary 10pm check, at which stage she discovered Madeleine to be missing (despite at least several other people at the same restaurant already knowing that Madeleine had supposedly already gone missing by 9.15pm, or earlier)...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4029 on: April 04, 2019, 02:22:PM »
Yet, based on the team McCann collection of statements, at least 8 of the 9 adult members were still sat at the dining table until around 10pm when Kate McCann got up to do the imaginary 10pm check, at which stage she discovered Madeleine to be missing (despite at least several other people at the same restaurant already knowing that Madeleine had supposedly already gone missing by 9.15pm, or earlier)...

How come that none of the Ocean Club staff in the restaurant saw these 8 or nine members of the same group sat at their dining table at any stage from 9.30pm, onward (with the exception of Diane Webster who was seen sitting alone at a table where three couples had previously been dining)..

Since, if at any stage after 9.30pm there had not been anybody (with the exception of diamond Webster) sat there at that table, how could Kate McCann have risen from that table to go and do her 10pm check? How could all the others with the exception of Russell O'Brien have still been sat there at that table until Kate returned to the tapas bar after checking the apartment and discovering Madeleine taken?

Why would Kate McCann run back to the tapas bar to alert everyone who was supposedly still there, that Madeleine was 'gone', when the only person still there was Diane Webster?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4030 on: April 04, 2019, 02:27:PM »
How...

Could Gerry McCann have still been sat at the dining table at around 10pm, and he be alerted there by his wife that Madeleine was no longer in their apartment, and how could he and Kate rush back to the apartment, after she supposedly alerted, if the only person sat at the table where the McCann couple and a further two couples had enjoyed their evening meal, had been Diane Webster from 9.45pm onwards?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4031 on: April 05, 2019, 04:16:AM »
How...

Could Gerry McCann have still been sat at the dining table at around 10pm, and he be alerted there by his wife that Madeleine was no longer in their apartment, and how could he and Kate rush back to the apartment, after she supposedly alerted, if the only person sat at the table where the McCann couple and a further two couples had enjoyed their evening meal, had been Diane Webster from 9.45pm onwards?

The three couples had all vacated their dining table, leaving personal items of clothing behind at 9.30pm, so this fact cannot easily be ignored. Where did Kate and Gerry McCann disappear to during the next half an hour or so, between 9.30pm and 10pm?

Because neither of them, or any of the other 7 group members were present at their table at any stage between 9.30pm and 9.45pm, and whereabouts were the McCann parents and 6 other group members, from 9.45pm, onwards, because during this period only Diane Webster was present at the table!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4032 on: April 05, 2019, 04:24:AM »
Seems perfectly logical to me, that information was circulating in the tapas bar restaurant environment that Madeleine was missing from the McCann apartment from around 9.15pm, or thereabouts...

So..

With this in mind, somebody alerted the McCann parents to the fact that Madeleine was missing from their apartment, at some point prior to 9.30pm, hence why the table where three couples had been sitting at the time of their evening meal, was completely vacated by 9.30pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4033 on: April 05, 2019, 06:34:AM »
Seems perfectly logical to me, that information was circulating in the tapas bar restaurant environment that Madeleine was missing from the McCann apartment from around 9.15pm, or thereabouts...

In addition, that the McCann parents and other members of the group, had all fled from the tapas bar restaurant by 9.30pm, at the very latest...

With this in mind, somebody alerted the McCann parents to the fact that Madeleine was missing from their apartment, at some point prior to 9.30pm, hence why the table where three couples had been sitting at the time of their evening meal, was completely vacated by 9.30pm...

None of the three couples who had been noted to have been sitting at a dining table, at any particular period in time, prior to 9.30pm, effectively returned to that table  at any stage after 9.30pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4034 on: April 05, 2019, 09:18:AM »
None of the three couples who had been noted to have been sitting at a dining table, at any particular period in time, prior to 9.30pm, effectively returned to that table  at any stage after 9.30pm...

So - where did these three couples disappear to?
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