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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4005 on: April 03, 2019, 06:57:AM »
What I would like to know, is who this couple were /are?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4006 on: April 03, 2019, 07:00:AM »
What I would like to know, is who this couple were /are?

The Ocean Club executive must be able to either confirm that the couple in question, were not the McCann Parents, or that they were..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4007 on: April 03, 2019, 07:11:AM »
If the couple at the centre of this matter were the McCann Parents, then obviously it has the ramifications of helping to convict them both of Conspiracy to Commit murder, and perverting the course of Justice..

On the other hand..

If the couple, were Mathew and Rachelle Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner David and Fiona Payne, or as the case may be Steven and Charlotte Carpenter, it could be an indication that Madeleine had been abducted - ?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4008 on: April 03, 2019, 07:16:AM »
But which couple were in conversation at that table by 9.15pm?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4009 on: April 03, 2019, 08:13:AM »
But which couple were in conversation at that table by 9.15pm?

David and Fiona Payne?

Or

Russell 0'Brien / Jane Tanner?
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 08:15:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4010 on: April 03, 2019, 08:20:AM »
David and Fiona Payne?

They arrived at the tapas restaurant shortly after 9pm, that evening - so, they could have been the couple who by 9.15pm had been sat at a table, talking about the fact that a little girl who belonged to Ocean Club guests had gone missing from their apartment!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4011 on: April 03, 2019, 08:48:AM »
Russell 0'Brien / Jane Tanner?
Failing that, something does not sound quite right regarding the activities of O'Brien and Tanner, from 9pm, onwards. For example, with regards to the checking of their own apartments by both in /during a crucial half hour period between 9pm - 9.30pm - Russell O'Brien stating that he went to do a check at 9pm, without stating what time if any he had returned to the tapas bar restaurant in time for him to leave again along with Mathew Oldfield to carry out the 9.30pm checks...

On the other hand, then (a) there is the controversy surrounding Jane Tanner's leaving of the tapas bar at 9.10pm on the pretense that she was worried that Gerry McCann had taken such a long period in time to do his 9pm apartment check, and (b) the claim that upon leaving the small reception entrance how she has seen both Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins talking in the street, and (c) the more obvious introduction of a single bloke carrying off a child in his arms (not seen by anyone else) on that occasion (9.10pm), an alleged sighting which she did not tell Gerry and Kate McCann about until the following date (4th May 2007) -  this to me, (d) seems to fit in snugly with  what the couple at the tapas table were overheard to be speaking about by 9.15pm..

Where,
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4012 on: April 03, 2019, 08:50:AM »
Failing that, something does not sound quite right regarding the activities of O'Brien and Tanner, from 9pm, onwards. For example, with regards to the checking of their own apartments by both in /during a crucial half hour period between 9pm - 9.30pm - Russell O'Brien stating that he went to do a check at 9pm, without stating what time if any he had returned to the tapas bar restaurant in time for him to leave again along with Mathew Oldfield to carry out the 9.30pm checks...

On the other hand, then (a) there is the controversy surrounding Jane Tanner's leaving of the tapas bar at 9.10pm on the pretense that she was worried that Gerry McCann had taken such a long period in time to do his 9pm apartment check, and (b) the claim that upon leaving the small reception entrance how she has seen both Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins talking in the street, and (c) the more obvious introduction of a single bloke carrying off a child in his arms (not seen by anyone else) on that occasion (9.10pm), an alleged sighting which she did not tell Gerry and Kate McCann about until the following date (4th May 2007) -  this to me, (d) seems to fit in snugly with  what the couple at the tapas table were overheard to be speaking about by 9.15pm..

In other words, Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner are the Most likeliest persons to have been responsible for bringing news to the tapas bar restaurant, that Madeleine had gone missing from the McCanns apartment (5a), and/or that they might have been the couple at the tapas bar overheard talking (9.15pm) about a little girl having gone missing from an Ocean Clubs apartment!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4013 on: April 03, 2019, 09:13:PM »
The fact that the exact whereabouts of O'Brien / Tanner (9pm - 9.30pm), between the tapas restaurant and their apartment, at any given time, and the claim that their daughter became ill after Mathew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien left the restaurant together at 9.30pm, (effectively some 15 minutes after people at the tapas bar had knowledge that Madeleine had already gone missing), and that Jane Tanner was the person who introduced the man carrying a child in his arms, gIving Gerry McCann an alibi, because he was in the street talking to Jez Wilkins, at the time TANNERMAN was sighted walking away from the location of the McCann apartment, paved the way for the introduction of the abduction narrative. However, Jane Tanner did not tell the McCann parents of this sighting until the following day...

Must have some bearing on what really happened to Madeleine's body!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4014 on: April 03, 2019, 09:45:PM »
According to two members of the Ocean Club staff, the table where three couples had been seated during evening meal was totally abandoned by 9.30pm until 9.45pm, after which the same table had a single elderly female (Diane Webster) sat there from 9.45pm, onwards...

This is consistent with people at the restaurant knowing about the fact that Madeleine McCann had gone missing from the McCann apartment, by 9.15pm...
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 09:47:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4015 on: April 03, 2019, 09:58:PM »
According to two members of the Ocean Club staff, the table where three couples had been seated during evening meal was totally abandoned by 9.30pm until 9.45pm, after which the same table had a single elderly female (Diane Webster) sat there from 9.45pm, onwards...

This is consistent with people at the restaurant knowing about the fact that Madeleine McCann had gone missing from the McCann apartment, by 9.15pm...

If people at the tapas restuarant knew at 9.15pm that Madeleine was missing from the McCann apartment, why did it take a further 45 minutes for Kate McCann to discover Madeleine missing from the same apartment? Somebody knew that Madeleine had gone missing from the McCann apartment, the Executive witness who witnessed a couple talking about the missing child at 9.15pm, should be able to recognise the couple involved...

Identifying this couple (9.15pm, incident) by the executive member of staff, will be a catalyst in the search for the truth, in this investigation.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4016 on: April 03, 2019, 09:59:PM »
Identify the (9.15pm incident) couple, solve the mystery, simples, in it!
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 10:01:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4017 on: April 04, 2019, 11:35:AM »
How did this couple know that Madeleine McCann had already gone missing from the McCanns apartment (5a) by 9.15pm?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4018 on: April 04, 2019, 11:38:AM »
How did this couple know that Madeleine McCann had already gone missing from the McCanns apartment (5a) by 9.15pm?

This couple hold vital information about the truth surrounding Madeleine's disappearance, whether she left or was taken out of the McCann apartment, dead, or alive, prior to 9.15pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4019 on: April 04, 2019, 11:41:AM »
Who told the couple that Madeleine McCann had gone missing out of the McCann apartment before 9.15pm, that evening, to enable the couple to be discussing it openly, so that an Ocean Club executive overheard what they were talking about at that time?
« Last Edit: April 04, 2019, 11:42:AM by mike tesko »
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