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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3315 on: September 07, 2018, 12:02:PM »
Why didn't the Portuguese police take a witness statement from Mrs Carpenter?

Similarly, why didn't Leicestershire police obtain a witness statement from Mrs Carpenter?

Surely, if Mrs Carpenter heard someone calling out the name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine, Madeleine' several times whilst Mrs Carpenter was crossing over the street close to the front garden and patio area, and set of concrete steps belonging to the McCanns apartment in block 5 (5a) this is, or was the most significant piece of evidence in the entire two police investigations, to-date?

The somebody calling out the name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine, Madeleine' was almost certainly the voice of the person who had found her after an accident of sorts, or it was the voice of the person, or people who took Madeleine away, dead, or alive!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3316 on: September 07, 2018, 12:23:PM »
Surely, if Mrs Carpenter heard someone calling out the name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine, Madeleine' several times whilst Mrs Carpenter was crossing over the street close to the front garden and patio area, and set of concrete steps belonging to the McCanns apartment in block 5 (5a) this is, or was the most significant piece of evidence in the entire two police investigations, to-date?

The somebody calling out the name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine, Madeleine' was almost certainly the voice of the person who had found her after an accident of sorts, or it was the voice of the person, or people who took Madeleine away, dead, or alive!

I can't image why burglars or even any abductor kidnapped the corpse of a dead child!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3317 on: September 07, 2018, 12:29:PM »
If Madeleine was dead, or had died as a result of an accident because she and the other siblings belonging to the McCann parents had been left unattended, with the patio door unlocked, and Madeleine had wandered out through the unlocked patio door and fallen down the set of concrete steps, or god forbid climbed up one patio chair, or a table or the raised balcony and fallen to her death into the garden below, then of course, the McCann parents would have been facing serious charges, they would have probably both been imprisoned, lost their jobs and had their other two children taken off them by Social Services or the powers that be! In those circumstances, it becomes easy to see why the McCann parents might want to get rid of, conceal, or dispose of Madeleine's body, as though she was a common piece of garbage people might throw in the bin!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3318 on: September 07, 2018, 12:32:PM »
The relationship between Gerry McCann and Stephen Carpenter remains high on my list as requiring further investigation, because there has to be a reason why Gerry McCann and the other 8 tapas group members appear to have distanced themselves from him - whilst on the flip side, Stephen Carpenter raves about things he enjoyed doing in Gerry McCanns company, and all manner of adventure!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3319 on: September 07, 2018, 12:55:PM »
The relationship between Gerry McCann and Stephen Carpenter remains high on my list as requiring further investigation, because there has to be a reason why Gerry McCann and the other 8 tapas group members appear to have distanced themselves from him - whilst on the flip side, Stephen Carpenter raves about things he enjoyed doing in Gerry McCanns company, and all manner of adventure!

I mean, why have the McCanns and friends allowed it to become accepted that Robert Murat forced himself upon themselves, if Stephen Carpenter had been responsible for introducing and recommending Murat to the McCanns as an interpreter?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3320 on: September 07, 2018, 01:02:PM »
Rather more puzzling, and worrying, is why several of the tapas group alleged that Robert Murat had been seen hanging around in the vicinity of the McCann Apartment and the Baptista supermarket around the time that Kate alerted everybody that 'Madeleine was gone', and that 'they'd taken her'? If Robert Murat had been hanging around the McCann Apartment around the time of Madeleine McCanns disappearance, he would have surely known all about her having gone missing, and wouldn't have needed to enquire on the following morning of Stephen Carpenter why the police were present! According to Stephen Carpenter he told Robert Murat that a little girl had gone missing from one of the holiday apartments nearby...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3321 on: September 07, 2018, 01:04:PM »
Rather more puzzling, and worrying, is why several of the tapas group alleged that Robert Murat had been seen hanging around in the vicinity of the McCann Apartment and the Baptista supermarket around the time that Kate alerted everybody that 'Madeleine was gone', and that 'they'd taken her'? If Robert Murat had been hanging around the McCann Apartment around the time of Madeleine McCanns disappearance, he would have surely known all about her having gone missing, and wouldn't have needed to enquire on the following morning of Stephen Carpenter why the police were present! According to Stephen Carpenter he told Robert Murat that a little girl had gone missing from one of the holiday apartments nearby...

Makes you wonder that Kate knew far more than she was making out to know by that stage!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3322 on: September 07, 2018, 01:12:PM »
Makes you wonder that Kate knew far more than she was making out to know by that stage!

For example, let's take the comment that Madeleine was supposed to have been crying along with Sean of the evening before her disappearance, when Madeleine asked Kate why she didn't come last night when they were crying? Surely a parent would try to find out why they had been crying and when? The fact of the matter was that some neighbour or other heard the crying which lasted over a good one hour period in duration, and it was common knowledge amongst some people that lived permanently in block 5 that a strange couple had actually entered apartment 5a at the time to find out what the commotion was all about? This was the evening when Kate and Gerry stayed out drinking until midnight, and which resulted in Kate sleeping in the spare bed in the children's bedroom upon her return to the apartment..

If they had left their apartment at around 8.30pm on that particular evening, without carrying out any checks, and had not returned until around midnight, it could mean that the McCann siblings, all three of them had been left unsupervised for three and a half hours or longer in an unlocked apartment!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3323 on: September 07, 2018, 01:21:PM »
For example, let's take the comment that Madeleine was supposed to have been crying along with Sean of the evening before her disappearance, when Madeleine asked Kate why she didn't come last night when they were crying? Surely a parent would try to find out why they had been crying and when? The fact of the matter was that some neighbour or other heard the crying which lasted over a good one hour period in duration, and it was common knowledge amongst some people that lived permanently in block 5 that a strange couple had actually entered apartment 5a at the time to find out what the commotion was all about? This was the evening when Kate and Gerry stayed out drinking until midnight, and which resulted in Kate sleeping in the spare bed in the children's bedroom upon her return to the apartment..

If they had left their apartment at around 8.30pm on that particular evening, without carrying out any checks, and had not returned until around midnight, it could mean that the McCann siblings, all three of them had been left unsupervised for three and a half hours or longer in an unlocked apartment!

Any wonder then that Madeleine might have inadvertently had a terrible accident and died not inside the apartment, but outside beyond the unlocked patio door situated on the poolside of the premises? Had Madeleine got out through the very same unlocked patio door that the strange couple had apparently entered on the previous evening?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3324 on: September 07, 2018, 01:27:PM »
Another somewhat intriguing piece of information, concerns the brown stain which Kate McCann said she had found on Madeleine's pyjama top, on the morning of the 3rd May 2007? Kate claims that she washed 'it' that same day and put the stain down as tea spillage! But, there is no corroborating evidence to prove that Kate found the brown stain on the morning of the 3rd of May, or that she did wash Madeleines pyjama top that day! Maybe the stain got there as a result of Madeleine falling from the patio onto the garden below, and that the brown staining which Kate speaks about, was from the soil in the garden where she fell, or discolouring from her body striking the bark of bushes and shrubs during her fall!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3325 on: September 07, 2018, 01:42:PM »
What strikes me in this case, are the number of inconsistencies, contradictions and anomalies between the various accounts of all interested parties. It wreaks of a group of friends all trying to do one or other of their friends a favour, when this happens you always end up with confusion!

I am intrigued by a number of issues in this case, which as I have said are pivotal features in the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann...

One such pivotal feature, involves the two entirely separate occasions when news breaks out at the tapas restaurant and bar, firstly at around 9.30am, followed by Kate McCanns dramatic alert at 10pm where she informs everybody that 'Madeleine is gone', and 'they've taken her'...

Yet earlier still (before 9.30pm) when the chef or a tapas restaurant bar employee came in to start work, he states that there was some commotion or other, at one of the tables that he passed when arriving at work, where there was some aggitated activity about something who might have gone missing, or so...

That couldn't surely have involved Kate or Gerry McCann at such an early time, could it?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3326 on: September 07, 2018, 01:45:PM »

That couldn't surely have involved Kate or Gerry McCann at such an early time, could it?

How about the following scenario...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3327 on: September 07, 2018, 01:52:PM »
The Carpenters were approached by Gerry McCann to help him cover up the accidental death of his daughter (Madeleine) which had come about due to the McCann parents leaving their three siblings home alone in an insecure, unlocked apartment? What if the Carpenters had been the couple who had gone into the McCann Apartment (5a) on the previous evening when Madeleine and Sean had been crying? Maybe the McCanns and the Carpenters, or one or other of them, had had words about the previous evenings events? This is interesting because according to Stephen Carpenter he was talking to the McCann parents over dinner and whilst drinking before Gerry McCann went to do the first check of the evening on the 3rd May 2007 at their apartment (5a) at around 9.05pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3328 on: September 07, 2018, 01:57:PM »
The Carpenters were approached by Gerry McCann to help him cover up the accidental death of his daughter (Madeleine) which had come about due to the McCann parents leaving their three siblings home alone in an insecure, unlocked apartment? What if the Carpenters had been the couple who had gone into the McCann Apartment (5a) on the previous evening when Madeleine and Sean had been crying? Maybe the McCanns and the Carpenters, or one or other of them, had had words about the previous evenings events? This is interesting because according to Stephen Carpenter he was talking to the McCann parents over dinner and whilst drinking before Gerry McCann went to do the first check of the evening on the 3rd May 2007 at their apartment (5a) at around 9.05pm...

Did one or other of the Carpenters, or both of them follow Gerry McCann out of the tapas restaurant when he went to do his 9.05am check at apartment 5a? And was this the occasion when the Carpenters crossed the road on the opposite side to apartment 5a, and that it was at this time that Mrs Carpenter overheard Gerry McCann repeatedly calling out Madeleine's name, because he had discovered her laying dead amongst the bushes and shrubs beneath the patio on the pool side of apartment 5a?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3329 on: September 08, 2018, 07:06:PM »
The cadaver dog signalled a positive alert beneath the patio in shrubs, consistent with a corpse having been resting there, or placed there on some occasion or other..
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