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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3180 on: August 07, 2018, 08:18:AM »
I know that this may seem somewhat minor to most people, but I think that Madeleine McCanns disappearance is related to the block booking of tables each night at and from 8.30pm by the McCann entourage, resulting in it upsetting other holiday makers, and forcing them to take their evening meal much earlier in the evening!

The Carpenters were one of the aggreived parties..

According to Kate McCanns book (page 56, 3rd Chapter) it was Rachel Oldfield who managed to get a block booking of the restaurants tables for nine of the group at 8.30pm each evening..

Seed 2 of Motive..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3181 on: August 07, 2018, 08:23:AM »
Rather more worryingly was the fact that a member of Mark Warner Staff (the receptionist who Rachel Oldfield had influenced) had made a note in the restaurant book that they were leaving their children alone, but checking on them intermittently! This book was available to all members of Staff, guests and visitors..

Seed 3 - of motive
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3182 on: August 07, 2018, 08:45:AM »
And so, here layeth the problem - an outdoor canopied dinning area designed to serve only fifthteen persons, and each evening from 8.30pm onwards the nine adult members of the McCann entourage took pride and place of nine of those fifthteen places, leaving only six vacancies each evening...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3183 on: August 07, 2018, 08:58:AM »
On the evening before the day Madeleine McCann was taken the McCann parents stayed out later than usual - they had been staying out for late drinks at the tapas bar, and Gerry McCann left there at 11.50pm to go back to their apartment (5A) because he said he was feeling 'tired' leaving Kate with the others! When Kate eventually strolled in, she decided to sleep in the spare bed in the children's bedroom overnight!

This information is very interesting because it was on the following morning that Madeleine had asked Kate why she didn't come last night when both she and Sean had been crying?

This was the same occasion when it was rumoured that a couple had entered the McCanns apartment around the time the children had been crying (was this couple the Carpenters)?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3184 on: August 07, 2018, 06:05:PM »
This gives an idea of the layout of the complex. However many times we are told this is a quiet family resort and leaving the children unattended was just like sitting out in the garden at home the plain fact is the rear of the apartment was not visible from the tapas bar https://youtu.be/LcQwi4w6wpg

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3185 on: August 07, 2018, 08:13:PM »
This gives an idea of the layout of the complex. However many times we are told this is a quiet family resort and leaving the children unattended was just like sitting out in the garden at home the plain fact is the rear of the apartment was not visible from the tapas bar https://youtu.be/LcQwi4w6wpg

yes , i still don't understand how they could have felt it was ok to leave their kids every  night by themselves!

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3186 on: August 07, 2018, 08:34:PM »
This gives an idea of the layout of the complex. However many times we are told this is a quiet family resort and leaving the children unattended was just like sitting out in the garden at home the plain fact is the rear of the apartment was not visible from the tapas bar https://youtu.be/LcQwi4w6wpg

That is correct, since the bedroom window /shutter was situated on the roadside of the apartment, beneath which was a footpath, separated from the car park by a wall! What is also disconcerting, was that according to what Kate McCann writes in her book ('Madeleine'), that Gerry McCann broke the lock mechanism on the window shutter in the bedroom where they left their three siblings on that fateful evening! One is left to wonder whether or not after breaking the locking mechanism whether either Gerry or Kate reported it to the Ocean club staff?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3187 on: August 07, 2018, 08:36:PM »
That is correct, since the bedroom window /shutter was situated on the roadside of the apartment, beneath which was a footpath, separated from the car park by a wall! What is also disconcerting, was that according to what Kate McCann writes in her book ('Madeleine'), that Gerry McCann broke the lock mechanism on the window shutter in the bedroom where they left their three siblings on that fateful evening! One is left to wonder whether or not after breaking the locking mechanism whether either Gerry or Kate reported it to the Ocean club staff?

If they did, was it noted in a repair/maintenance book?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3188 on: August 08, 2018, 07:16:AM »
And if what Kate says about Gerry McCann breaking the shutter at the window is true why was it that on the night that Madeleine was reportedly abducted or taken did the McCanns suggest that the shutter at the window had been forced or forcedl open by the would be abductor?

Why would they leave their three siblings home alone, knowing that the locking mechanism on the window shutter wasn't working? And on top of this leave the sliding patio door on the poolside of the apartment unlocked? Worse still, it also appears that when Gerry NcCann left the apartment after his 9.05pm check, he is not sure whether he left the roadside door unlocked or not?

Why would a parent leave their three siblings sleeping in a bedroom which had the steel shutter at their bedroom window broken, and the two doors back and front left unlocked, whilst they frolicked at the tapas restaurant and bar, only intending to make checks every 30 minutes or so?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3189 on: August 08, 2018, 07:22:AM »
And if what Kate says about Gerry McCann breaking the shutter at the window is true why was it that on the night that Madeleine was reportedly abducted or taken did the McCanns suggest that the shutter at the window had been forced or forcedl open by the would be abductor?

Why would they leave their three siblings home alone, knowing that the locking mechanism on the window shutter wasn't working? And on top of this leave the sliding patio door on the poolside of the apartment unlocked? Worse still, it also appears that when Gerry NcCann left the apartment after his 9.05pm check, he is not sure whether he left the roadside door unlocked or not?

Why would a parent leave their three siblings sleeping in a bedroom which had the steel shutter at their bedroom window broken, and the two doors back and front left unlocked, whilst they frolicked at the tapas restaurant and bar, only intending to make checks every 30 minutes or so?

The children a solely in that bedroom were in a highly vulnerable position since despite what the McCanns have always sought to maintain, for example that they could see the patio door on the poolside of the apartment from their vantage point at the tapas restaurant and bar, they could not see the children's bedroom window or the unlocked roadside door from that location!!

What the McCanns did by leaving their three children 'Home Alone', in these circumstances was / is unforgivable, it is far worse than the claim that they had simply left their children home alone, what they did was criminal, since they left their three siblings at risk and peril of all being abducted!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3190 on: August 08, 2018, 07:28:AM »
Checking their three children every 30 minutes or so, in these circumstances was not only inappropriate, it was damn right dangerous, crying out for any would be abductor, peadophile to simple walk into apartment 5A and take one or other, (or even all three of their children), via the unlocked roadside door, which Gerry McCann was responsible for after his 9.05pm check!

Why would any parent in those circumstances, leave a door unlocked which was on the far side of the premises from where he, his wife and the other 7 group members were all sitting, with no possibility of knowing one way or another whether anyone had simply walked into the apartment at their leisure, and taken one (or potentially two, or all of them) of the McCanns children?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3191 on: August 08, 2018, 07:32:AM »
Checking their three children every 30 minutes or so, in these circumstances was not only inappropriate, it was damn right dangerous, crying out for any would be abductor, peadophile to simple walk into apartment 5A and take one or other, (or even all three of their children), via the unlocked roadside door, which Gerry McCann was responsible for after his 9.05pm check!

Why would any parent in those circumstances, leave a door unlocked which was on the far side of the premises from where he, his wife and the other 7 group members were all sitting, with no possibility of knowing one way or another whether anyone had simply walked into the apartment at their leisure, and taken one (or potentially two, or all of them) of the McCanns children?

yes, and also I wouldn't want my children waking up and finding themselves all alone in the apartment, can you imagine their fear and panic with mummy and daddy gone!!

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3192 on: August 08, 2018, 07:33:AM »
So, this is something far more serious than a parent or parents leaving their children 'home alone', whilst they went out for evening meal and drinks afterwards, in a nearby restaurant and bar, with regukar 30 minute checks being made by one or other of the McCann entourage, this was behaviour crying out as a criminal act, not only negligence...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3193 on: August 08, 2018, 07:46:AM »
yes, and also I wouldn't want my children waking up and finding themselves all alone in the apartment, can you imagine their fear and panic with mummy and daddy gone!!

I agree, since it is every child's devine right to expect a parent to be at hand whenever any crisis presents itself

The matter is made far more serious because we now know with 100% certainty, that Gerry McCann had broken the locking mechanism himself, of the bedroom shutter, and that after his 9.05pm check that he had left the roadside door on the blind side of the apartment (from the vantage point of any table at the restaurant and or tapas bar) unlocked! What good was it making regular checks of the apartment, no matter how many minutes there were in-between each of these checks, if the parents, or any of the group they involved in making such checks could even see the unlocked roadside door or the bedroom window with its broken locking mechanism behind which the McCanns three siblings had been left home alone?

I want to know if the McCanns had reported the fact that Gerry McCann had damaged and broken the locking mechanism if the steel window shutter, to the staff of the ocean club prior to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

I cannot believe that if it had been reported (as it should have been) that the Ocean club staff had not recorded that fact by documentary means, or that they had not repaired it!

Furthermore, although this may seem somewhat a minor point, were the McCanns even charged for the damage to that window shutter that Gerry McCann himself had been responsible for causing?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3194 on: August 08, 2018, 07:51:AM »
I would also like to mention that I find it extremely odd that although Stephen Carpenter presents himself as well known to the McCanns, in particular to Gerry McCann, during that holiday, that the McCanns, in particular, Gerry McCann, makes no mention whatsoever of him!
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